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Old 05-30-2010, 06:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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MQ2 valved pump

What would one need to convert their pump cocker in an MQ2 valved Pump cocker?
Obviously an MQ2 valve, but which one? I see 3? different types of MQ2 valves on the market.

What type of board would be required? I have seen people say UTB boards, but at the same time mention open bolt vs. closed bolt versions of the board.

What trigger frame would you need? Would you be able to convert a stock slider frame to take the board?

Any milling or work that needs to be done to the body (to route wires, etc)?

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Old 05-30-2010, 06:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Depends on your marker for the valve set up. A standard MQ2 valve will fit a standard body. Karnivors can take the karni MQ2 valve (using the karni ivg) or you can use a standard MQ2 valve in your karni as long as you use a standard IVG

11/16th's valves are for things like the black magic (maybe SR) and some other odd bodies

Boards can be like E1, E2, UTB. Not sure on the specifics but I'd assume closed bolt version because it's still a closed bolt marker.

You can convert any frame if you have the know-how and money. UTB boards can be pretty dang tiny and you can fit them lots of places. Otherwise, standard E-frames are your easiest bet.

No work needs to be done to the body. You slide the valve in, use the valve set screw to hold it in place. Slide the pilot assembly in, thread the wires (carefully) out the bottom slot where the hammer lug slides and goes into the board.
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Old 05-31-2010, 10:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I just built one using a UTB and a CCM 86 frame following the directions found here: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/c...ss-25-how.html

I did use a dremel with this bit though to "mill" the frame 115 High Speed Cutter / Model: 115

All in all it came out pretty good
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I've had an MQ in my 99 cocker for several years now. You do not have to do anything other than setting the valve dwell. However, there is one problem. There is nothing to synchronize the valve with the bolt. I over came this by adding a reed switch on the side and a magnet on the pump arm. The reed switch is connected in series with the trigger switch. This way, the gun only fires when the bolt is closed. Plus, you get the added benefit of now having an auto-trigger.
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MM what psi and dwell do you run it at?
and how many times do i keep asking you this, sorry


oh and, MQ valve and AT....WITH A PUMP!!!! whats wrong with you man!!!!!
DO YOU HATE PAINTBALL THAT MUCH?
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I think it is about 275 - 300 psi.

Having an auto-trigger just helps you compete with the semi-autos. The auto-trigger was not my intent, that was just an added benefit of trying to sync the bolt and trigger. Without the sync, you could fire the valve without the bolt being closed.
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Sorry, double post...
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