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Old 09-06-2010, 01:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The evil ram does work for my setup, its just not as smooth, actually now that i think about it i dont even notice it when im shooting.

As far as the ram travel with the sto, I'm starting to think I am crazy because no one seems to know what I'm talking about(I've posted the question before). Can someone do me a favor? Grab your back block, pull it rearwards past the point where the lug catches the sear and keep pulling until it stops, then look in your breech and see how far behind the feed tube your bolt tip is.
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Old 09-06-2010, 01:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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That gap is normal on a properly tuned cocker. You shouldn't be experiencing any problems of rollbacks causing breaks. It's more likely that the problems were coming from another part of the gun.
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:32 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Ok, its normal. You are the first person to ever say that to me. The very first. Thank you for letting me know I'm not crazy. lol wow. Every single person I talked to(probably 20+ of them) immediately started to tell me all the things that were improperly adjusted on my marker. I wonder if my old thread is still there...

Now that I think about it, a while after I bought the shorter ram I changed my detent because it was sticking, it was probably sticking before I noticed it and most likely the actual cause of the breaks then.

Does anyone know where I can get a polished green ram?

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Old 09-08-2010, 09:13 AM   #14 (permalink)
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That gap is normal on a properly tuned cocker. You shouldn't be experiencing any problems of rollbacks causing breaks. It's more likely that the problems were coming from another part of the gun.
Not really - it means you don't have the pump arm on the ram properly.

It should be threaded on until it stops, then the backblock put on. The ram should be used to stop the backblock, not the cocking rod/hammer/backblock setup, or you run the risk of mushrooming the lower tube or breaking the sear lug due to it slamming into the end of the sear slot in the lower tube.

If the bolt is going past the feedneck hole when the gun is aired up and the trigger pulled back, something's out of adjustment.

All the rams on the market for A/Cs are essentially the same stroke - with minor variations due to tolerances more than anything else.
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:18 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Not really - it means you don't have the pump arm on the ram properly.

It should be threaded on until it stops, then the backblock put on. The ram should be used to stop the backblock, not the cocking rod/hammer/backblock setup, or you run the risk of mushrooming the lower tube or breaking the sear lug due to it slamming into the end of the sear slot in the lower tube.

If the bolt is going past the feedneck hole when the gun is aired up and the trigger pulled back, something's out of adjustment.

All the rams on the market for A/Cs are essentially the same stroke - with minor variations due to tolerances more than anything else.
I didn't say he should use the cocking rod to limit the travel of the backblock, I just said that the gap is normal.
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Not really - it means you don't have the pump arm on the ram properly.

It should be threaded on until it stops, then the backblock put on. The ram should be used to stop the backblock, not the cocking rod/hammer/backblock setup, or you run the risk of mushrooming the lower tube or breaking the sear lug due to it slamming into the end of the sear slot in the lower tube.

If the bolt is going past the feedneck hole when the gun is aired up and the trigger pulled back, something's out of adjustment.

All the rams on the market for A/Cs are essentially the same stroke - with minor variations due to tolerances more than anything else.
Ok, I think what 99% of people are failing to realize, is that with a threaded rod you can only make 2 types of adjustments. Shorten, and extend.
You can't extend it so the back block has a sliver between itself and the body, AND shorten it to limit bolt travel past the breech, both at the same time. It's physically impossible. Please stop posting how its "out of adjustment."
And my ram does stop the back block, but with a longer ram it stops it further back. Think about it, you make the pump arm adjustment with the ram forward, with a short ram it has a shorter distance to travel rearward before it stops, and with a longer ram it has a longer distance to travel rearwards until it stops.
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I use WGP Rams, Orry 3way or the Adjustible Super Stock, LPR Sonic, very small or the WGP Bullet with allen head adjustment. Qevs are not needed.
As most have already said, WGP on a mech is no issue and to tell you the truth using the stock parts or keeping them with bring you, if you sale it ,you will get more then all the $ you spent on all that after market stuff, the biggest choice in performance is frame, what is most comfortible for you.
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nice gallery fewolf. i have a question about the wgp "super short" 3-way i have. its super reliable, and i dont mind using the collar to adjust it, but i was wondering if the throw was the same as the ct and orry 3 ways?
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there should be the thickness of an index card between the backblock and the body when the marker is gassed up in the resting position.

All CCM pneu's are rebuild friendly and are available new in box directly from CCM, as well as rebuild kits for everything.
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nice gallery fewolf. i have a question about the wgp "super short" 3-way i have. its super reliable, and i dont mind using the collar to adjust it, but i was wondering if the throw was the same as the ct and orry 3 ways?
They are all the same. You could screw one of these into your 4way and it would then be an "orracle" 4way.

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