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Old 04-08-2007, 09:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Bolt question, for my Trilogy Tactical

I recently picked up a Trilogy Tactical, my first cocker. It seems to be solid and I think in the long run I will be happy with the purchase. I do however feel the bolt needs to be upgraded. I am new to the world of cocker's (one of the reasons why I am starting off with a Trilogy) and know next to nothing about upgrades. I do know that Trilogies are limited as far as adjustments and upgrades go. I have a couple quick questions.

-Does that limit which bolts I can drop in it?
-Can anyone recommend a good, but cheap bolt? (Or point me to one for sale here?)

I figure I will start off learning the basics on my Trilogy Tac, then eventually mature into a "real" cocker. Maybe build my own from the bottom up.

Thanks in advance guys.
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Old 04-08-2007, 09:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You're not going to see a whole lot of performance upgrade from changing out the bolt, unless you also change out the valve and adjust the pressure accordingly. You're best leaving the gun alone, the only thing you may wanna do is change out the trigger frame if it's one of those cheesy *** 1.5 finger things. With an autococker you'll always think something needs to be changed because they're just so tempting to tinker with. Resist the temptation, instead of spending 30 bucks on a new bolt, buy a Talon and mod that. That way you won't ruin your autococker.
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Old 04-08-2007, 09:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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if you want to tinker with an autococker, the only thing you should really mess with is input and valving pressures, along with the timing. this should be done to give it a smooth feel, the common upgrade path here is to just leave the stock valve, get a good inline reg (palmers!), good ram and 3-way and good LPR(micro rock)

so, basically, don;t screw with a trillogy. just replaced the cheesey trigger frame if you don't like it, then buy a real cocker down the line and tune that... if you really want an autococker, i know where you can get a nice one pretty cheap (wink wink) [/shameless plug]
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Old 04-08-2007, 09:45 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Does it shoot good and at 300fps now?

Changing out the bolt will do bubkis. Better money is spent towards a good barrel or 2.

Only botls that do something different are the Jam bolts or the Undershot bolts, and both of those have a specific purpose.
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Old 04-08-2007, 09:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
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You guys are fast! Knew you would be.

Lesson #1 learned, thank you gents.

I was mainly thinking about a bolt switch due to the fact that the face of the bolt is a bit rough. Honestly, I have yet to even shoot the marker, so I shouldn't be swapping anything out anyway. I know, shame, shame! I was thinking along the lines of a Delrin bolt.

Walking_Target don't think I haven't spent my fair share of time in your for sale thread looking at it.
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Here's a place that sells a bolt you could use http://www.alamocitypb.com/MANUFACTP...ockerbolt.html
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Old 04-08-2007, 11:36 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Rough bolt face? Wont do much of anything really. Sharp edges (they would have to be really sharp) might slice into balls easier.. but I doubt it.

Shoot the gun some, see what it needs to be a better performer for you, and then upgrade accordingly.

Drive the car for a bit before you swap out the stock "junk". Its been developed for over 10 years and ended up that way, I would give it a chance. Heck, you will find that the stock cocker valve is one of the best out there.
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Rough bolt face? Wont do much of anything really. Sharp edges (they would have to be really sharp) might slice into balls easier.. but I doubt it.

Shoot the gun some, see what it needs to be a better performer for you, and then upgrade accordingly.

Drive the car for a bit before you swap out the stock "junk". Its been developed for over 10 years and ended up that way, I would give it a chance. Heck, you will find that the stock cocker valve is one of the best out there.
Will do, thanks for the help.....everyone.
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Old 04-08-2007, 06:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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As I understand it a lighter delrin bolt will help if you're running an Eblade and fast cycle times. For a mechanically triggered Trilogy it won't do much for you.

The only thing I'd swap would be the trigger frame if it's one of those finger and a half deals or you just want a nice single finger.
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I was mainly thinking about a bolt switch due to the fact that the face of the bolt is a bit rough.
Polish it with steel wool and elbow grease.
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