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Old 02-29-2008, 07:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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im building a sniper

so far i have a mint condition aim eagle body in dust black and a glass black ccm feedneck coming soon. what other parts do i need and what do you recomend. iam planning on getting a ccm 86* frame and a ccm pump kit and i would like a freak barrel. but after that i am unsure. ane suggestions would be apreciated.
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Old 02-29-2008, 07:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well that brings your shopping list down a bit... aside from the parts you mentioned you will probably need:

lower internals, CCM makes a really nice lower internal kit that includes a valve, springs, a hammer, a valve jam nut and a valve retaining screw.

A cocking rod.

A back block.

A bolt.

A regulator.

Whatever tank mounting and air lines you prefer.

After that you should be set. CCM makes all those components, although it adds up quickly. I hate to be precieved as a CCM fanboy (I'm really not, I hate CCM but I use thier stuff anyway), but there is no denying that for currently manufactures sniper components they are the leader.
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Old 02-29-2008, 07:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Looks like you are starting off decent. Make sure you get a nice derlon bolt. Superfly, jackal, or just a plain wgp derlin bolt will do. Thats all I can purpose to you.
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i will be using a cp shorty reg. i was looking at ccm internals but what other rands are good. and for bolts...are the stifi bolts any good? and what detents do you recomend. or are they even necessary?
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i will be using a cp shorty reg. i was looking at ccm internals but what other rands are good. and for bolts...are the stifi bolts any good? and what detents do you recomend. or are they even necessary?
Whatever internals you can get your hands on will be fine, most of the marketing push is gone now, and most "high end" internals are all identical in performance. There is some criticism to the WGP internal kits on ebay, but that is centered around them being cheap in comparison to other internal kits. The CCM kit is usually suggested to new sniper builds because the kit comes with parts that most new bodies are missing. Springs, valve guide nuts, and valve jam nuts are reletively expensive and hard to find if you dont have them already.

Stiffi bolts are fine, ala they work about as well as most. The main marketing attraction to that bolt is that is it light weight for faster semi cycleing. As t3rd_hugg3r pointed out, a delrin bolt is advantageous for pumps as they are typically oring free and light enough, but mostly because they are smooth sliders and make the best use of the refinements of your CCM pump kit.

Detents? I would reccomend them to prevent double feeding. Beyond that, one ball detent is the same as another to me. I have one thats all stainless, I have one thats aluminum with a delrin ball. I like them both. I like them particularly because they do thier job well. In a way its like asking what shoelaces you have. It doesnt really matter as long as they do thier job, and if they dont do thier job, you notice right away and minor tragedy follows.
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Old 02-29-2008, 08:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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so your saying that all internals are the same or that all aftermarket ones are the same. i found black ndz ball detent from my old prostock that i am going to use. im going to buy the first reasnably priseddelrin bolt that i find. is there any good websites that have cocker parts? and no front black is needed right? just the pump kit? thanks for all of your help. i appreciate it.
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the pump kit will go in place of the front block, so no front block will be neccesary. the valve and spring combination will determine where the sweet spot is.

the easiest build I have ever had was a total ccm setup. I had a ccm lower tube kit matched with a ccm regulator.

another easy build was an all shocktech lower tube and a shocktech bolt matched with a palmers regulator.

if you see a pattern here, its that you can make life easier on yourself by matching components made by the same company because they were designed to work well together. you can go peicemeal but that adds an element of uncertainty that needs some experience in tuning autocockers.
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im going to get the ccm internal kit but i already have a cp reg so im going to use that. i found a jackal bolt for 25 shipped. is that a good deal?
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Yea, delrin bolts can range in the $20 to $40 range... so sure that sounds good. That CP reg should do you fine. I'm not a fan of anything made by CP, but thats just me.
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i have always used them and i realy like them. but not everyone likes the same thing.lol.
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