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Martelo 11-14-2006 06:25 PM

Why Autococker?
Hi Guys,

Dont shoot me over the topic, but that's really my question for you.
I own a VM68, really happy with it, but I have to get a new gun for my son, who is getting into the sport.
I was considering getting him an autococker. Which model, no clue!
Why should i buy one? What are the main advantages in having one. What are the main differences between models?

Any help is welcome.


Phantom Power 11-14-2006 06:58 PM

I guess the first question I'd ask is, what made you consider an Autococker ? There's about a thousand different kinds of autococker out there, all with their pros and cons (some with more pros than cons and vice versa). It's an incredibly versatile platform that can be set up an almost infinite number of ways and tuned like crazy.

What are you looking for in a marker ? That might help us answer the question better.

Martelo 11-14-2006 07:21 PM


I dont want a marker that can spit 200 balls a second. I like accuracy, easy maintenance and long range. Also it has to be reliable. Not quite sure if going for a electronic marker is my kinda thing.
I dont know if such a marker exists or not, but the cockers have been around for so long...
Plus, i can use some of its barrels on my VM.

Phantom Power 11-14-2006 08:00 PM

Well, you're not going to get any better range out of any gun unless it has a flatline type system. 300fps is 300fps. Cocker's have been around for a long time since they are so customizable, and the design is solid. They perform well. But they aren't the easiest guns to maintain. They're not the most difficult either. For ease of maintenance I'd recommend an Automag over a cocker any day. Just add oil.

Also, cocker threads are different from VM-68 threads, so unless you have a customized VM-68 you're out of luck for barrel swapping.

tagroland 11-14-2006 08:00 PM

In a word: Blazer.

I am definetly not one to jump on a bandwagon, but in this seems the best deal for you.
1) They are still in business (lifetime waranty??)
2) They are idiot-proof (I own one!)
3) Coemeticly clean, no weird hoses coming out (easy clean up)
4) Anyone here can walk you through fixing it - online!

This is the advice I give every week at my field!


Phantom Power 11-14-2006 08:21 PM

If a Blazer is in your price range, then hands down that's the semi I'd most highly recommend as well. It's what an Autococker wants to be when it grows up.

K_Obeastly 11-14-2006 08:25 PM

I would recommend mags as well. Some of them can be finicky if they aren't set up properly but when you get one set up right it is going to run forever with just a little oil and a new o-ring every now and then. Currently I have an Emag and a pump/semi mag. Once I tuned the lvl 10 in the emag there is no stopping it. The pump mag has a bit of a problem, it has an aftermarket venturi bolt and it does not like to seal. Factory mag bolts work great I just need to find one for it.

I like to work on cockers and that is great since there is never a shortage of cockers that need work. A lot of fun to work on but I don't care for using them on the field. While not liking the cockers I will admit I do like snipers (pump cockers when on PBN).
I don't like needing a beaver tail but without one I end up smacking my goggles with the back block, it seems like paint is getting smaller so preventing rollouts is a big issue and they just seem a bit too big to me.

however all that being said now that the ion is so cheap that it has killed the resale market for most guns, you can pick up both a mag and a cocker for less than what it costed me to pick up my first mag or my first cocker.

knightmare96 11-14-2006 08:54 PM

If you are looking for "easy maintenance" then the blazer is your autococker of choice. The best reasons to go with a cocker are customization options, and low cost tinkering fodder, but your VM will be far more reliable. As for range, any paintball moving at about 300 fps is going to go about the same distance the one exception being a flatline effect, and we can argue its effectiveness, and accuraccy loss into the ground.

Blazer if you have the money, if you don't, you may consider a Tippmann pro-carb for less money it may give you a better platform for what you are looking for.

Martelo 11-14-2006 08:57 PM

The VM works with cocker barrels if you have the Lapco adapter, which i do.
I havent still looked into the mag. but it could be a good choice.
And what about the Tippmanns?

PS: Where can i find a Blazer? Info and for sale?

Phantom Power 11-14-2006 09:02 PM

Palmer's Pursuit Shop makes the Blazer.

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