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    #16
    Am I missing something or is there zero shape to this thing to keep it straight? Is it held in only by the screw?

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    • Chuck E Ducky

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      Looking at the rendering it looks that way. This may move around a lot if it’s bottom Profile is not keyed into the body like the other Stock class feeds. That’s a good point.

    #17
    Originally posted by SignOfZeta View Post
    Am I missing something or is there zero shape to this thing to keep it straight? Is it held in only by the screw?
    It's keyed as a factory one or mongo feed would be, I have the model shaded not showing edges, therefore you cannot see the U channel that runs along the bottom.

    The easiest way to tell is using the section view here at the back. You would see an edge on the bottom as well as the top if the tube was perfectly circular. You can also see the different in material thickness between the top and bottom of the tube.

    Little faith guys, a little faith
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      #18
      I’ll take your word for it...but it simply is not visible in any of your pictures.

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        #19
        Originally posted by SignOfZeta View Post
        I’ll take your word for it...but it simply is not visible in any of your pictures.
        Ask and you shall receive.
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        #20
        Update, first piece proof is done. Will be in my possession early this week. Pics to follow it's arrival...... its $$$$.

        Following sign-off production will begin, should be completed within 1-2 weeks.

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          #21
          Big update.

          We've finished up out feed gate design and will be running it in line with the feed tubes. Seeing who would be interested in one to go with their tube. Its 35 more without a stock phantom feed gate, and 45 more of you also want the phantom feedgate. If you don't want one at all, no harm, just going to give all the guys buying tube feeds first dibs. Also, if you would like any extra BST gates with the order let me know. I am cutting 100, and they are compatible with factory tubes.



          After talking with Vindicate, after approval on Wednesday, he's going to start hammer out parts, things could start showing up at my house as soon as late next week.

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            #22
            Also, as I bumped to 40 spots, I have 6 spots left if anyone wants one let me know.

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              #23
              Op updated with all the latest.

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                #24
                Just curious, but does this fit with a drop out valve? I know the cci one piece does not and needs a custom feed gate to work.

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                • __Z__
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                  They will interfere, my design rides directly on top of the top tube, while our tube will clear just fine (assuming the dropout changer is the same diameter as the upper tube), the gate, will hit a dropout.

                  However, with a longer center tube section, you could in theory clear a dropout changer.

                #25
                Want to make sure everyone knows, the gates ARE universal.

                Updated with latest info and pics.

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                  #26
                  Aluminum feed gates are cool. Any way you can design them so the take the regular sock lock style feed gates. I don’t like the Oring retention design. I don’t see that oring lasting long and I don’t want to have to concentrate on reloading. I would buy multiple gates if they took the standard CCI style speed feed.

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                    #27
                    Originally posted by Chuck E Ducky View Post
                    Aluminum feed gates are cool. Any way you can design them so the take the regular sock lock style feed gates. I don’t like the Oring retention design. I don’t see that oring lasting long and I don’t want to have to concentrate on reloading. I would buy multiple gates if they took the standard CCI style speed feed.
                    Chuck, have you watched my video?

                    From the testing I've done between a typical gate and the oring, the oring imo is much easier.

                    As for gates using the typical gate, there's no current plan to run any, but we'll see what happens. I plan to continue to run more feeds, so it's a possibility.

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                    • Chuck E Ducky

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                      Yeah I don’t load like that tho. I just push a tube in the feed never had to think about what angle I load at. Sharp edges on the 10 round tubes I don’t see that oring lasting long. Yeah it’s easy to replace but I see it being a wear item and it doesn’t improve on the original design, Other then the ability to anodize it. I have 15+ year old phantoms that still use the same feed gate. Looking at the old gate you can see it takes a beating.

                      What’s the benefit or reason you went with an oring. Is there a copyright on a feed gate? Machine time? Or is it sourcing the gate itself? Because you can design them around Sock Locks that have a slightly different dimension then the CCI gate. You can buy packs of them dirt cheap and they come in a variety of cool colors. Adding even more custom options while still keeping cost down. (24 of them are $2)

                      Wouldn’t be cheaper and easier to just add a small grove in the inside for the gate retention? Then the cut threw and radius on the outside.

                      I like the idea of the aluminum feed gates so I we can Ano match them to our custom builds. But the original design works flawlessly. Why change it?

                      BTW the feed looks great. Don’t forget about the CCM market CCI feeds bolt right on CCM full block markers. That feed would look great on a T2F!
                      Last edited by Chuck E Ducky; 03-19-2021, 10:50 AM.

                    • fullofpaint

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                      Agreed. I'm gonna grab one to try it out, butt I can defintly see being in a firefight and this causing a jam. LOVE the idea of an annodizable feed gate though.

                    #28
                    In all honesty I was just trying to come up with something different to try. Designing something to use a sock lock would have been plenty easy enough.

                    I honestly prefer this, and am not a fan of the standard style gates. That being said I don't have much play time on mine. Maybe guys will love them, maybe they won't, time will tell lol.

                    As far as the CCM market..... little disappointed, I even offered to do the correct bolt pattern, and I've had 1 guy interested (Chuck you and I have done business before back on FB, and we chatted on IG before you got rid of it ha).

                    The guys with HB CCMs have been begging me to do this swivel design I came up with though, it'll likely be next.
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                      #29
                      I'll just leave this here.

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                        #30
                        Just so people don't think I died. All the tubes will be shipped to me this week. The tube portion is taking a little longer than Vindicate Sports had oroginally thought. Apologies for the slight delay.

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