instagram takipci satin al - instagram takipci satin al mobil odeme - takipci satin al

bahis siteleri - deneme bonusu - casino siteleri

bahis siteleri - kacak bahis - canli bahis

goldenbahis - makrobet - cepbahis

cratosslot - cratosslot giris - cratosslot

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

SPAR valve orders (auto-response valve for Automags)

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • rawbutter
    replied
    It is with all the usual "it is with great sadness" phrases that I must announce I no longer have time to build more SPAR valves. It was very rewarding to make these, and I've been humbled by all the faith and enthusiasm everyone has given me over the last two years. But sadly, I simply don't have enough free time anymore to keep building these valves.

    I'm sorry to anyone still on the waiting list who is not going to get one. I will contact everyone personally to let them know. Thankfully I didn't take any money or parts up front, so I don't need to do any refunds or stuff like that. But I'm sure it will still be disappointing, and for that I apologize.

    If you still want one of these SPAR valves, my advice is to email Airgun Designs directly and ask them to make a production model. I did give one of the SPAR valves to Tim Glavin at AGD, and I've given him permission to copy the design and build new frames to go with it. At this point I don't think anything will happen because they don't seen the demand needed to justify the R&D for a new frame. If enough people email them or post on Facebook about the SPAR, however, that might change. Who knows. Stranger things have happened.

    Don't worry. I'm not walking away from MCB or paintball or even custom projects. I will probably keep making pneumags for people, and I have some other big things I want to try. I'm simply no longer making SPAR valves.

    Leave a comment:


  • Grendel
    replied
    Originally posted by Nxt1playr View Post

    Also how much trigger pressure would you say there is in response mode?
    Diamond labs frames are similar to but not the same dimensions and safety configuration as my GripStyx frame. I'm pretty sure they are closer to a standard Mag Intelli Frame here are some pictures from Bacci's website:

    Click image for larger version  Name:	agd0635.jpg Views:	0 Size:	57.6 KB ID:	10831

    Click image for larger version  Name:	agd0635c.jpg Views:	0 Size:	29.5 KB ID:	10832
    Click image for larger version  Name:	agd0635d.jpg Views:	0 Size:	26.4 KB ID:	10833

    I would take some measurements of the cavities in the frame and send them to Rawbutter. He'll need those to determine if the valve will fit in the frame. I would expect it would be easier, then my GripStyx or Benchmark frames, given how much meat is there and the fact there is no pre-drilled holes for the safety, but I'm not doing the work

    I've not measured the trigger pressure but when I get it back up and running again I'll do so but the pressure is lighter then a nominally tuned RT trigger. I could pull the trigger all day without it being an issue.

    Leave a comment:


  • Nxt1playr
    replied
    Originally posted by Nxt1playr View Post

    I also have a diamond labs frame would that work as well?
    Also how much trigger pressure would you say there is in response mode?

    Leave a comment:


  • rawbutter
    replied
    Originally posted by Meleager7 View Post
    Hi, RawB, are benchmark mag frames still on the table for this mod?
    Yup. Benchmark frames cost about $25 more because of some extra time it takes to modify them, but they work great.

    Leave a comment:


  • Nxt1playr
    replied
    Originally posted by Meleager7 View Post
    Hi, RawB, are benchmark mag frames still on the table for this mod?
    I also have a diamond labs frame would that work as well?

    Leave a comment:


  • Meleager7
    replied
    Hi, RawB, are benchmark mag frames still on the table for this mod?

    Leave a comment:


  • njk
    replied
    Aww man this makes me want to build a mag. . . no- I must resist the urge.

    Leave a comment:


  • Grendel
    replied
    Originally posted by Nxt1playr View Post
    I'm linking myself to this thread via post for when I'm ready to buy
    Buy one you will not regret getting it done and Rawbutter is super friendly and easy to deal with. He did the Production model with EZ ASA sleeper mod for me and I can not be any happier. Hopefully this weekend I can get it up and running on my Mini project. This project is just taking too long on my part

    Leave a comment:


  • Nxt1playr
    replied
    I'm linking myself to this thread via post for when I'm ready to buy

    Leave a comment:


  • rawbutter
    replied
    reserved for FAQ

    Leave a comment:


  • rawbutter
    replied
    Valve animation:

    Click image for larger version

Name:	image_1565.gif
Views:	652
Size:	1.51 MB
ID:	8481

    Picture Gallery:

    coming soon

    Shooting demos:

    1st Prototype shooting video

    2nd Prototype video, with safety switch

    3rd Prototype with single trigger frame

    Production model with EZ ASA sleeper mod

    Angel frame with sleeper mod

    Video Manual
    Last edited by rawbutter; 07-25-2020, 12:28 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • SPAR valve orders (auto-response valve for Automags)

    This is the SPAR valve. It’s a select-fire, pneumatic, auto-response trigger valve for the Automag Intelliframe that costs about $150.

    EDIT: I am no longer building these as of March 2022. See post #12 below.

    Click image for larger version  Name:	valve front.JPG Views:	5 Size:	132.6 KB ID:	8387 Click image for larger version  Name:	valve back.JPG Views:	5 Size:	116.6 KB ID:	8386 Click image for larger version  Name:	image_1555.jpg Views:	6 Size:	90.6 KB ID:	8388 Click image for larger version  Name:	disassembled.JPG Views:	5 Size:	99.2 KB ID:	8385



    The valve is mounted inside the frame like a pneumag set-up, but it can fire the marker on both the pull and release of the trigger. It also has a rotating selector-switch safety with three positions: safe, single fire, and auto-response. This is a significant improvement over previous mechanical auto-response frames, which always fired twice with each trigger pull (even if you only wanted to take a single shot),

    The base cost for this mod is $150. That covers the valve, the safety, the milling, some new grip screws (the stock screws are too long), and the return shipping in a small flat-rate box. (I can also ship to Canada and overseas if you cover the extra cost.) You must also provide a frame and an LPR. (The price was originally $100, but it was increased on 6/17/2020.)

    This is not a pre-order. I’m building these one-at-a-time on a first-come, first-serve basis. I will only ask you for payment when I’m ready to start working on your frame.

    How does this work?
    1. Let me know you want to be on the list. (Post here or send me a PM.)
    2. Find yourself a frame and an LPR. (See the notes below on which kind to get.)
    3. Fill out this order form.
    4. Wait for me to contact you.
    5. When it’s your turn, mail me your frame and send me your payment. (I accept PayPal, or you can send me a personal check or money order with your parts.) Don’t forget to include the order form inside the box.
    6. Wait a few weeks.
    7. Once you receive the modified frame, you will have to bolt it onto your Automag and mount/tune the LPR. This will be easy, and I’ll send you a video manual showing you what to do. You might also have to cut your grips to make room for the safety-switch (or I can do this for you if you ask).

    More details:
    The valve itself is simple. There are only two moving parts (the trigger pin and the piston). The internal assembly is held in place with a single 5/64 pin, so it's easy to take it apart and replace the o-rings when needed (probably once a year or so). It will also work on pretty much any Automag with any valve. X-valve, classic valve....whatever. You will need an RT on/off, however. A classic on/off won't cut it.

    The piston is made from polished 5/16 steel rod. The back end has a nubbin that fits a u-sup seal. This is also easily rebuilt. (Later model pistons are made from black 3/8" delrin.)

    There are two safety styles: the servo arm and the 3D printed switch. (Big thanks to ArmageddonSportz for designing the 3D switch!) Both are included with your order, and they're held in place with the same ball-and-spring assembly used in standard AGD frames. The aluminum servo arm comes with two 1/8" 4-40 socket screws installed. You can easily remove these screws if you want, but I find that they make the switch wider and easier to move.

    Your frame will have to be milled to make room for the SPAR valve. I will also drill a 1/8" hole in the back of the frame near the hole for the field-strip screw. This is for resetting the sear. (It's a common mod for all pneumag frames.)

    By the way, this modification will permanently alter your trigger. Besides milling the frame, I will also have to grind down the back part of the trigger to fit the safety. So, if you’re thinking of just trying this out and then going back to normal if you don’t like the valve, that won't work. You will have to (A) buy a new trigger or (B) keep using the safety switch.

    FAQ:
    What frame should you use?
    I prefer AGD-spec frames (Intelliframes, x-frames, any other double-trigger frame from AGD, anything from Luke’s Customs, Airwalks, Logic UMFs, etc.). Still, I can make this work on almost any other frame that you want (Dye, Angel, Ion, etc.), though I will have to charge you an extra $25-$100 for the extra time required for testing and milling.

    I cannot fit the SPAR valve inside stock carbon fiber frames. They are too narrow.

    What valve should you use?
    Any valve is fine, but you should have an RT on/off assembly.

    What LPR should you use?
    I’ve built over a dozen pneumags over the years with a variety of set-ups, and I can tell you will complete confidence that any LPR will do. (LPRs are typically designed to handle large amounts of air, whereas pneumags only use a tiny bit to move the piston.) The smaller ones (like the old stock models from WGP) tend to look nicer mounted on Automags, but I would just go with whatever you’re comfortable paying for. Personally, I prefer Palmer’s LPRs because they are really easy to service, and you can buy knobs for them to make adjustments easy, but they can be expensive. So, it's usually better to use one of these.

    How hard is the trigger pull?
    It’s hard to compare this to anything else I’ve shot. It’s not as crisp as an Automag RT on/off. It’s not as snappy as a pneumag. It’s certainly heavier than a ULT. But the pull is light enough that my finger doesn’t get tired after shooting 100 shots in a row, and it’s smooth and predictable. It’s versatile too. With practice, you can shoot the Automag once even when you have it set to auto-response. You just have to pull the trigger halfway and then stop.

    Can I do VASA milling?
    One of the coolest ways to install an LPR on a pneumag is to have it mounted on the front of the VASA. If you want, I can easily do this for you for an extra $10 if you send me your VASA with the rest of your parts.

    Sleeper Set-Ups:
    If you want me to make you a sleeper (with the LPR hidden inside the frame), I can do that too. Sleeper set-ups cost an extra $25-$100, depending on what frame you choose.

    If you do want a sleeper set-up, you will need an LPR that’s small enough to fit inside the grip frame. You should also check with me about what ASA you want to use. Personally I prefer CP on/off ASAs since ANS-Gear still sells them new for about $35, but other ASAs will work too. Just check with me first so I can send you a quote.
    Last edited by rawbutter; 03-06-2022, 01:05 PM.
Working...
X