Heads up for cross-border sales

[Jordan]

Alexndl thanks, I did a little Googling last night and discovered that.

Still a thinly veiled 35% tariff on Canadian goods. If I put country of origin as American, no charges. Call it what you will, it's still bull****.

[Alexndl]

Delivery duty paid
It's one of the incoterm when you do logistic and sales across borders. It mean the seller is responsible of shipping cost, taxes and import fees. It's the one where the seller take all the risk and fees.

[Alexndl]

We have to use a new app called Zonos to pay for the tariff before shippping and it's required by Canada post.
They force us DDP, and we probably can't use any other incoterm unless you are a business shipping with other carrier than Canada post.

They had to create something to screw everyone while giving money to an unknown app developer.
Nothing to reduce inflation and crazy price.

[Jordan]

Who pays duties and fees is determined by the shipping terms. You are being sold DDP incoterms because this will result in the fewest returns.

I don't know what DDP incoterms are.

All I know is I had to use an app to determine duties owed based on item value and country of origin, and then required to pay those duties, plus taxes, on the item before I can ship to the US.

[Chappy]

Who pays duties and fees is determined by the shipping terms. You are being sold DDP incoterms because this will result in the fewest returns.

[Jordan]

I discovered today that yes, duties are paid by the seller.

Nearly $180 with taxes, plus the cost of shipping - I decided to refund the buyer and keep the marker.

[Reflex0283]

I can't say for sure, but my family went on a trip up to Quebec for a few days, declared a bottle of wine at the border on the way back, and then we were just on our merry way.

[Reflex0283]

This is great and all, but even if they rule against the tariffs there is still a very real chance that this administration will just ignore the courts like they have in the past.

[Kit352]

What's the situation when physically crossing the border with items?

[the_matrix_guy]

Just when you think this can’t possibly get worse.

Bureaucracy and absurdity go together like peanut butter and jelly.

[Trbo323]

From Canada, the fees are prepaid by the shipper or at least that is what the Canada Post website says.

I have also heard rumors that the attempts to undervalue your sale may be thwarted by "AI assistance" in determining true market value. No credible source on this but who knows.

Man that's all we need, some AI using curated and prices eBay listings as a basis for what things should be worth

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[Jimmydee]

I just dealt with this today again and you can just type in what your product is and you don’t have to use AI. I used a picture today and use AI today but I still paid nothing because it originated from USA.

[FredMnkyDad10]

I just shipped paintball parts from California to Ontario, Canada. Got there in 8 days.

[Rickfactor2]

From Canada, the fees are prepaid by the shipper or at least that is what the Canada Post website says.

I have also heard rumors that the attempts to undervalue your sale may be thwarted by "AI assistance" in determining true market value. No credible source on this but who knows.

[the_matrix_guy]

Chappy I think that if the Supreme Court rules the tariffs as illegal, the exemption for de minimis will be back on the table.

The biggest issue now is that as it stands, the federal government would have to reimburse businesses anywhere from 750mn to 1bn. That’s another reason why they want to fast track it through. So it doesn’t keep accumulating.

And now you have businesses betting on the supreme court overturning the tariffs and are buying up importer’s rights to their reimbursement claims. Which I found kind of interesting. I don’t know. Let’s see what happens.