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    Curious about transferring air from a large PB tank to a small PB tank.

    Can I use a simple remote line to complete the task?
    Last edited by Arthur; 04-26-2021, 05:02 AM.

    #2
    yes a remote could handle 3k to 4.5k depending on manufacturer but your first limit is your tank reg won’t offer those level of pressure.


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      #3
      Ninja does sell a reg for this purpose, but it is not intended for use with a marker. It’s for tank to tank fills only.
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        #4
        If you are talking about filling from a 70ci to a 13 or 9ci tank or something like that it will sort of work.

        simply use normal PB parts to connect the two. On/off ASA to stainless line with a quick disconnect fitting to the fill nipple.

        However, you will only be able to fill the smaller tank to the maximum output pressure of the larger tank’s regulator. So if the larger tank is 850 psi output, the smaller tank will only fill to 850 psi.

        The only way to get more pressure into a tank is to use a compressor or fill from a scuba tank. The output of a scuba tank is unregulated so they can fill a PB tank up to the pressure inside of the scuba tank.
        so if you only have 1000 psi left in the scuba, that’s all that will make it into your PB tank.
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          #5
          Ninja made a big 4.5k tank you could fill a bunch of 13ci 3k tanks off of but you would still need to fill the thing at you local field or proshop. They had a regulated fill whip that came with it. Don’t know if it’s still available. Gorilla air made a 100 CI as well don’t know if they have passed there hydro date at this point.

          I think there are scuba tanks that fill to 4.5k now to but they are not cheap. The massive ninja tank isn’t either.

          https://www.ebay.com/itm/14380018827...Cclp%3A2334524
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          3L= Approx 183ci @4.5k that could fill a lot of 3k tanks. Don’t know how your local field or pro shop would feel about filling it. I know I wouldn’t have a problem at mine. But I sell a lot of product for them so they hook me up.

          You would also need to rig up a fill station that could take 4.5k ninja sells one. But again not cheap. It’s going to be a chunk of an investment. Scuba fills setups are only rated to 3k I wouldn’t trust it at 4.5k. That’s just asking for trouble.
          Last edited by Chuck E Ducky; 04-26-2021, 10:22 AM.

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            #6
            Scuba is the way to go if you ask me.

            $150 for a good tank (3k)
            $50 for a fill adaptor
            $40ish for hydro and vis if it's needed

            If your anything like me you'll only need 2-3 fills a year so the upfront cost is around $250 but after that you really save some money not to mention how convenient it is

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              Definitely nice to have especially if you tec a bunch of stuff. My new tec bench in the new garage will definitely have bulk air source.

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            What about something like a Yong Heng compressor?
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              #8
              Yong Hengs can be had for $200-300, plus another $100-200 for a cheap Chinese desiccant/filter setup (which I would highly recommend if filling often). If you just want a little air every now and then for testing, a hand pump and 13/3k are the way to go.

              Both of these options don't allow for immediate filling (ie between games). These options would be something to use to fill a bunch of tanks prior to an outlaw ball day, or as a top up throughout the day. If you need immediate fills, a scuba is the way to go.

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                #9
                For the record, I have actually done what you, (the OP), asked to test setups after rebuilding and installing regs. Just fill it to ~ 800 psi or whatever I have available to ensure the setup is all well and good.

                I think this is a quick and easy test before you waste time and money going to a field or shop to fill your freshly rebuilt or assembled reg/tank combo just to find out it leaks.
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                  #10
                  Word. Thanks for all the generous input.

                  -- My scubas are out of hydro. Putting off that hassle for now.
                  -- Brother has a Yong Heng compressor. The first one broke after a couple months of light use. We are still using the replacement now, 4-5 months. I'd like to see some reputable brands make these and then I'll put some money down.
                  -- I have a FS 124ci that I'm going to turn up the output pressure on. I think I'm good with that because I'm only plinking and testing.

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                    I would look into the fill station Ninja sells. You can just adapt that to your 124ci and fill small bottles off that.

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                  Originally posted by Arthur View Post
                  Word. Thanks for all the generous input.

                  -- My scubas are out of hydro. Putting off that hassle for now.
                  -- Brother has a Yong Heng compressor. The first one broke after a couple months of light use. We are still using the replacement now, 4-5 months. I'd like to see some reputable brands make these and then I'll put some money down.
                  -- I have a FS 124ci that I'm going to turn up the output pressure on. I think I'm good with that because I'm only plinking and testing.
                  Wait you already have scubas? Hydro and fill station should run you under $100



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                  • Arthur
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                    Yep, I got some old scubas. Im bringing them down to the scuba shop today. I hope they're still good -- pretty beat up, different fields, even in tanks at SG. Wish me luck.

                    They're technically NOT even mine though, haha. All three come from different people in the PacNW scene and NONE have ever made good on picking them up from me (7-8 years now). I originally saved them out of a garage from a player going through a nasty divorce. Once I rehydro them they become mine though, lol, unless they want to pay for it of course. I've hauled these around from 3-4 different homes. I want my compensation damnit.

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                    Gonna have to hydro them at some point anyway, right?. Just get it over with I say.

                    They are yours at this point.

                  #12
                  Quick update:

                  124ci FS tank is pushing almost 850-900 output. Slapped a remote line on, filled a completely empty 68ci tank to about 1000-1100, not too shabby. I'll take it.

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                    Originally posted by Arthur View Post
                    Quick update:

                    124ci FS tank is pushing almost 850-900 output. Slapped a remote line on, filled a completely empty 68ci tank to about 1000-1100, not too shabby. I'll take it.
                    One of your gauges is off then

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                    • caylegeorge
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                      no,no, its the Magic edition FS tank.

                    • Arthur
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                      Lol my money is on the MCS output pressure gauge vs the FS gauge.
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