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    Full Auto autococker?

    So I feel like I'm missing something here as I've never seen this before and I'm expecting theres a good reason but I just can't think of it at the moment

    If I take the frame from a empire sniper, with the pump arm and at rod, put that on an empire resurrection, could the ressy then do full Auto?

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    I don't know about your specific parts list but an auto-triggering cocker has been done. Looked pretty sweet. With a good enough hopper it might not even be a blender. Maybe. https://youtu.be/lIiyvTGiOqA

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    #3
    Well... Kinda however you would need to figure out how to actuate the three way

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      #4
      So far my experience with a pnuematic assist Sniper and autotrigger says, this doesnt work well.

      The major folly is how hard you hit the trigger. If you hold too tight you wont let the cam rotate and then no shot. Too loose and you are just pumping. It is a helluva thing to "time".

      I cant imagine a cocker wouldnt suffer the same problems.

      If you want FA cocker you want a BPS Reflex. All those extra bits look neato too.
      Velcor will save us...

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        #5
        cougar20th has a working Reflex Cocker it’s a lot of fun to shoot. He let me try it at Reaper Ball its really cool.

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          #6
          Went looking for Pump's old divide by zero.video..... found this.

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          • Rusty Brass

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            You really have to wonder why such an elegant solution was never brought to market

          • Alexndl

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            Nice compact setup
            Look like something Doc would have made

          #7
          Originally posted by Chuck E Ducky View Post
          cougar20th has a working Reflex Cocker it’s a lot of fun to shoot. He let me try it at Reaper Ball its really cool.
          My gun, the second video wasn't at full speed because I had broken the 3way coupler the day before and had it patched back together. Loctite is this things best friend.



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            #8
            Here is the other video

            The legendary "Reflex" Autococker, developed and built by Boston Paintball Supply in the late 90's.This was the first gun to feature a response trigger syste...

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              #9
              Originally posted by Rusty Brass View Post
              I don't know about your specific parts list but an auto-triggering cocker has been done. Looked pretty sweet. With a good enough hopper it might not even be a blender. Maybe. https://youtu.be/lIiyvTGiOqA
              But now I just want to do this

              Anyone know what frame this is?

              Or what frames are out there that can do AT and have a timing rod?

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              • latches109

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                Dye slide frame

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              I had a post a long time ago about a project I was holding close to myself

              But essentially with an auto trigger mechanism you could make an autotrigger a "pneu trigger" where the trigger only needs to activate the 4 way. There would need to be a spring loaded aspect of the pump rod to hold the bolt forward while the front half of the pump rod is moving backwards to drop the sear.

              Or a detent or something to keep the bolt in place and just a sloted interface to give the pump rod the ability to move backwards before forcing the bolt back past the detents.

              I think a shocktech ram would get the job done because they have an extra long stroke (which makes them the worst ram in paintball for a regular autococker IMO) that could provide the extra movement. Otherwise a normal ram you could probably lengthen the stroke by removing some material on the plunger or whatever its called on a ram.

              But using an auto trigger to force you yourself to pull the trigger automatically would work too. You would need to make those little cams really beefy as they do wear out. The weird thing would be that you could pull too hard and make the gun have too much friction to cycle. I don't think it would be easy to make it long term reliable (and ya you can just crank the LPR pressure)

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