Game of ID those old gun

[Alexndl]

Found a guy on Kijiji selling a lot of vintage paint gun
I already bough several but wondering if there is more I should get
(also if you are in Canada and are interested let me know I could share his contact)

Here are some I was not able to ID and would love more info and idea on value too
First picture
1-
2-

second picture
3-ACI but which model
4- F2 illustrator
5- Early bushmaster?
6- tippmann pro lite

Third picture
Close up on #5

Fourth picture
7-
8- PMI trracer
9- Bushmaster

Fifth picture
10- Tippmann 68 special (more looking for value on this one)

[lizardking132]

First 2 are brass eagle nightmares I'm pretty sure, I'm no expert

[moving_target]

I think one and two are nightmares, based on the pump handle and 12 gram placement, but I could be wrong

[RuleOfSines]

1. Brass Eagle Nightmare Long Barrel Comp, with constant air adapter
2. Brass Eagle Nightmare Short Barrel

Both look good, and are worth grabbing.

[Ecapnation]

Picture 2...

Not aci.... Older. It's an AFT pistol

[Pyrate Jim]

Number three is an AFT (Armed Forces Trainer)
Basically an F-2 Illustrator in a pistol form.

Number seven could be a team AGA Bloodsucker, not positive about it.

Number ten is a 68 Special, not a P-68. Tippmann cut the front off the SMG-60 and added a bolt and hopper.

[foughtwolf]

Five, the Nelson without a pump handle, looks an awful lot like a Nelspot Challenger. Sold as an all at once upgrade kit for Nelspots and basically replaced everything but the guts and frame that one appears to have a more traditional drop out changer than the Challengers quick release camming model.

[Grendel]

Image 1
1. Brass Eagle Nightmare LB
2. Brass Eagle Nightmare SB

Image 2
1 - Fastech AFT Armed Forces Trainer
2 - Fastech F2 Illustrator
3 - AGA Bloodsucker/Modded Mutt (old Nelsons are hard to "decode")
4 - Tippman Pro-Lite

Image 3
AGA Bloodsucker/Modded Mutt (old Nelsons are hard to "decode")

Image 4
1. Nelson Challenger Mutt
2. Tracer
3. Line SI Bushmaster Deluxe

Image 5
1. Tippman 68 Special

[Alexndl]

Thanks for all the information
will try to get the two nightmare

Also, anyone know value of a clear splatmaster rapide in box?

[sugarstump]

Number 8 (above the Trracer) is an Aerostar Assassinator (I own two of them)

[DocsMachine]

The Nightmare LB with the "California Constant Air" underslung 10-ounce Thermo-valve tank (not shown) was referred to as the "Ninja Nightmare".

The original gun was the Nightmare. Then they came out with the same gun, but longer, and called it the Nightmare LB (long barrel.) Both were 12-gram pistols. Adding a Crosman stock to them was (more or less unofficially, as I recall) called a Nightmare Comp. (Presumably for "Competition".)

The "top of the line" was the longbarrel, Crosman stock, 10-ounce tank, tank ring and 'donkey' (dummy 12-gram and hose) to make the "Ninja Nightmare".

If it's for sale, I'd like to know. I had one as one of the first markers I ever bought, and later sold it. If it's not too fabulously expensive, I wouldn't mind having one to hang on the wall.

Doc.

[Painthappy]

Spot on Doc.... Ninja Nightmare. Loved those guns.

#5 is somewhere between the Nelspot challenger kits you could buy and make out of using your existing nelspot handle and a Hi-Tech beast. (similar here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hi-Tech-Bea...r/284145196722) but I'm going to go with the Challenger kit.

[RuleOfSines]

The aluminum bodied Nightmares were still marketed as 'Ninja' with that arrangement? The only marketing I've seen that actually used the word Ninja was on the brass body, and no 12 gram quick change cutout.

[Painthappy]

Picture:

https://vintagerex.com/pics/gunpics/Brass%20Eagle/Ninja%20Nightmare/ads/1988-09%20-%20APG%20-%20Nightmare%20Ninja%20Ad%20Scan.JPG

Yes yes.. vintagerex does work, just the front end is still broken. I'll fix it this next week. Promise.

[DocsMachine]

Picture:
https://vintagerex.com/pics/gunpics/...0Ad%20Scan.JPG

-Forgot about the 'scope. I still have mine off that Nightmare- that I bought by mailing a physical money-order to Canada.

The telescope was of course worse than useless for paintball (and especially for a Nightmare which even back then had too big a bore and too low a velocity) so I put it on a Crosman 3357- just the pellet gun, not the paintball version. It was somewhat more useful there, but that gun was never any great shakes for accuracy no matter what you did to it.

But I digress.

Doc.

[paintballedbackin88]

Image 1
1. Brass Eagle Nightmare LB
2. Brass Eagle Nightmare SB

Image 2
1 - Fastech AFT Armed Forces Trainer
2 - Fastech F2 Illustrator
3 - AGA Bloodsucker/Modded Mutt (old Nelsons are hard to "decode")
4 - Tippman Pro-Lite

Image 3
AGA Bloodsucker/Modded Mutt (old Nelsons are hard to "decode")

Image 4
1. Nelson Challenger Mutt
2. Tracer
3. Line SI Bushmaster Deluxe

Image 5
1. Tippman 68 Special

This reply is what MCB is about, to me anyway, that and BST, and Ravi's place...chatting with Woooulf and Heinous is cool too though, oh and Handy and Jkoselka and Lew and the other AZ based players...