Inception Designs Fang Trigger

[glaman5266]

Was thinking about getting a Fang trigger. Thank you for the write-up.

[Brandon]

I replaced the stock valve spool with the bag switch, and since I did that on the cheap (vs the DW valve) I figured id do the same with the trigger. honestly its a solid "feeling" trigger but its to easy to defeat the safety since the trigger is plastic it just pushes right past it with enough force

[Toestr]

Great review! I am wondering if due to Covid ID is scraping the bottom of their barrel with parts. They’re running out of parts and putting out whatever they have. My ID pump kit was not in great shape either. Hopefully it’s just a temporary blip with ID parts and not a trend. Thankfully the retailer was good to me as well in issuing a partial refund due to the condition. So I’ll happily continue to use the retailer and ID parts, I may just double check the condition before buying.

Who'd you order from? I know there's not too many ID dealers in Canada. I got mine from Maier Hardware.

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[Cdn_Cuda]

Great review! I am wondering if due to Covid ID is scraping the bottom of their barrel with parts. They’re running out of parts and putting out whatever they have. My ID pump kit was not in great shape either. Hopefully it’s just a temporary blip with ID parts and not a trend. Thankfully the retailer was good to me as well in issuing a partial refund due to the condition. So I’ll happily continue to use the retailer and ID parts, I may just double check the condition before buying.

[Toestr]

As for the Automag recommendation I'll stand by it (for my purposes anyway).

Yes, if you need to rip long streams of paint easily and reliably, and have modern ergos in whatever format you tend to play, the Emek will be the one for you. In woodsball, you can get away with improper form much more easily, and I'm doing 3-4 rd bursts max. I also prefer the tight old school ergo.

For maintenance and stripping, I'd say they're about equal. Yes, Automag rebuilds aren't going to be as common, but you need it how often? Every 5 years? Maybe every 2 if you play often. At the rate I play, I can get away with every 10 years.

Personally, I wouldn't recommend either of these guns to a beginner as a first gun.

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[Toestr]

Thank you for your review, I was debating on getting the fang for my Emek. I opted for a Stanchy Race trigger.

I forgot all about the Stanchy triggers. While I'm usually a proponent of 3D printing and plastics in general on paintball guns, the idea of a 3D printed trigger doesn't inspire the most confidence (on a mech gun anyway). I'm probably overreacting though.

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[JonM]

Bold move recommending an Automag Classic in 2021 =P

Agreed. I know it may not be the MCB way, but I really can’t recommend an Automag these days. My Emek has sidelined both of my Mags for the past several years to the point where I’ll probably end up putting them all up on the block. Everything my Mags can do, my Emek can do better.

As for the Emach trigger, I use one myself and I can say that it does make a significant difference over stock (even without the additional adjustment point). In fact, I’ve actually had to tone things down a bit in some games for fear of breaking DBAD rules with it. So, while less expensive, it’s still a very capable upgrade.

[ford]

Nice write-up. Bummer about the annoying anno chip. Glad ID worked with you. Bold move recommending an Automag Classic in 2021 =P

To that end, I had a mag project I started in 2004 and did not finish til like... 2018. And unlike other cocker projects that have sat on the shelf just as long, the mag gassed right up and was good to go with a little tuning, all the seals were still good. Which is great since I wouldn't want to hunt down all those internals nowadays.

One note on the Emach, I think if you don't plan to use a hair valve and just want some adjustment options around post/pre travel it's a killer deal.

[Brandon]

Thank you for your review, I was debating on getting the fang for my Emek. I opted for a Stanchy Race trigger.

[Toestr]

After participating an a couple threads regarding Emeks and 'entry level' guns in general, I came to realize I was not alone in being underwhelmed with my stock Emek (EMF100) trigger. I figured I'd give my thoughts on what many consider to be the premier aftermarket trigger for this series of guns.

I chose to purchase the ID trigger primarily for the attention to detail Simon describes went into this in his installation video (minimalist, screws oriented for minimal binding on the switch, flat, leverage). I also bought this for the reputation ID has for quality, and the fact that it hasn't had the QC issues I've heard about the Infamous trigger (everything from stripped screws, sharp edges, and not being cut for the trigger spring to tool marks out of the box). These issues have supposedly been fixed, but the ID trigger is a couple bucks cheaper anyway. There is also the Emach trigger, which is half the price of the ID trigger, but it lacks an activation adjustment screw (which is half the point of these trigger upgrades imo), and also may not work with aftermarket switches.

Of course, the trigger I got had damage to the anno around the bottom two screws, and a bit of damage to the threads of the middle screw (which wouldn't have affected performance anyway). I don't know if this was an apprentice's doing or if Simon was having a bad day, but the baggie it came in hadn't been opened before, and it didn't appear to have happened in transit. After contacting the retailer, I got a partial refund in an amount I deem to be appropriate. A tap solved the issue of the threads, and I plan to get an anno touch up/automotive paint pen to touch up the rest. Once it was installed however, you can hardly notice the marks unless there's direct light on it.

Installation was easy. Pin goes in one way, and has a chamfered end and a knurled end. It also includes a lighter trigger spring (something I don't know is included in the other kits) so you don't have to go tearing apart pens or buying kits for a new one. Without air on the gun, this spring makes the trigger walkable, and the trigger is smooth.

The pre travel screw in mine isn't necessary, as no matter the position it's in, it always has no slack when the safety is on. Adjustment was easy. I adjusted mine to have a little bit of travel before the trigger breaks, and a bit of post travel as well. Coming from sear tripping guns, and actual firearms, I like a trigger pull with stages. This adds pseudo stages to what was before a mushy trigger pull. While there is not really a change in pull weight depending on trigger pull status, you can gauge more accurately how much longer it is until it breaks. For some reason, the trigger does feel a bit heavier now. I don't think it is, and it's probably because I no longer have any inertia built up before the trigger makes contact with the switch. The trigger might be walkable if an aftermarket switch is installed. I personally have no interest in that, as this gun is meant for woodsball, and very rarely do I find myself needing to rip ropes, or playing any kind of speedball format. I think PE OEM stuff will be more reliable anyway.

The few gripes I have with this trigger are obviously the damage I had to deal with initially, and the lack of colours. The gloss black is nice and goes with anything, and the gloss red trigger goes very nicely with any of the black bodies, but that is it.

Overall, based on what I've heard about the other triggers, I do think this one is the best. If you want the fancy milling, lasering and colours, or your local store only stocks the Infamous trigger and not ID stuff, go ahead and get it. It'll probably be fine, but it will cost you a bit more. If price point is your deal, then the Emach is for you. You will be sacrificing some major features however. The review is a bit long for what it is, but I hope I've helped some of you.

Lastly, if you're looking at the Emek as a mech gun with nice shot quality; I wouldn't recommend it, even with this. I'd recommend a used classic Automag. IMO the ID trigger brings the Emek's performance in line with what an Automag is stock in that regard, but the Emek setup is 3-4x more expensive than a used mag. If you're looking for modern features and the ability to reliably rip paint without tuning, then I'd say the Emek is up your alley.




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