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    Project tiger shark

    20210429_165406 by Iron Nerd, on Flickr

    So I have this Brass Eagle Tiger Shark (that I think I got for free) just kicking around. I could sell it, but who would buy such a thing, and what would I charge (+shipping). So… I’m thinking of doing some upgrades. Since the gun is worth just about nothing, these will have to be really cheap mods, perhaps even hacks.

    I figure I’ll start by going over the parts of the gun and my thoughts on improvements.

    WHAT I LIKE
    The Tiger Shark is actually a comfortable, light weight paintball gun. The design is clearly a compromise designed to reduce manufacturing costs and still provide an acceptable gun. Everything is thick, and square, but where you put your hands (trigger, grip, and pump handle) are actually pretty comfortable. The internals are industrial strength and pretty basic Nelson fare. The entire gun can be rapidly disassemble by pulling four little plastic pins. It is a unique gun that is so ugly, it’s actually kind of cool looking. Even after 30ish years, the plastic on mine is still in excellent condition with no signs of embrittlement.

    The big takeaway here is that the Sting Ray is SIMPLE and RUGGED.

    TRIGGER and FRAME
    Some previous owner drilled a hole in the trigger guard in order to install a screw to limit trigger forward travel. Since I want the gun to look as good as it can when I am done, I’ll have to fill those with epoxy and try to match the color and texture as much as possible I'll center the existing hole and insert an aluminum bushing in the trigger frame, and a threaded insert behind the trigger. That will allow me to add a shim behind the trigger so with one screw, I can adjust fore and aft trigger travel. They also sanded the trigger to make it more round. I may try to fab a new trigger, or see if I can get a trigger shoe to fit.

    Once I have that done, I’ll shim the trigger on the sides and then add plastic shimming inside the trigger frame to limit fore and aft travel. I may add a thin metal strip at the sear contact point to prevent wear.

    RECEIVER
    Not much to change here. At some point, someone put an autococker ball detent in this thing, but it does not reach into the chamber because the skin on these guns is freakishly thick. So that will have to be removed, and the hole plugged. But it’s hidden, so I won’t have to get fancy with color and texture matching.

    The pins that hold it all together are pretty loose at this point. I’ll replace them with metal ball-detent pins from the hardware store.


    McMaster-Carr Number
    1.000" long | 98320A010 | $1.88 x 002
    1.237" long | 98320A013 | $1.66
    x 001

    BARREL
    For the life of me, I cannot understand why B.E. did not use the Stingray barrel for the Tiger Shark. The Tiger Shark barrel cannot be bored for freak inserts, and I have never seen or hear of after market barrels for this gun (as they would probably cost more than the gun itself, and therefore make o sense at all). It may be possible to bore out the receiver and insert a metal unit with ‘Cocker or Spyder threads, but that seems extreme.

    Purchased a new Raptor barrel.
    $18 (incl shipping)

    Trimmed and installed.

    VALVE MECHANISM
    Other than a bit of polishing, I'm not touching the valve assembly. If I hose it up, I might not be able to get the part to repair the gun.

    I did add a 0.010" washer to the power tube in front of the flange to get the tube to open more as the hammer bottoms out before the power tube.

    HAMMER
    Just a bit of polish on the sear. Other than that, some corrosion removal on the hammer. I guess if I wanted to lighten the hammer, I could file flutes or drill some lightening holes...

    BOLT
    Nothing here either. There is not much that can be done with the bolt on this thing.
    I do plan to add some washers at the back of the bolt to bring up the velocity a bit.

    EFFICIENCY
    I'm not really worried about efficiency at this point as I plan to run the gun from a 12- or 20 oz remote setup.

    I'll try to post pictures as I go along. Let me know if you have any ideas or suggestions.


    RUNNING TOTAL
    Barrel $18
    Bolt Shims $2

    Total: $20
    Last edited by Ironnerd; 05-16-2021, 09:24 AM.
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    What's your velocity like? If it's low and the washer behind the hammer spring doesn't boost velocity, could you thread the inside of the bolt for a velocity adjustment screw like a Trracer or Phantom?
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    #3
    Raptor barrels can be modded to work. just need to cut a bit of the shank off and it threads right in. Then you can freak bore it. I just use the stock barrel with a electrical tape detent in the barrel and it works perfectly .

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      ^^^^ This.

    • Ironnerd
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      Thank-you.

      I did do the nail-polish hack to the inside of the barrel. That works to prevent roll-outs.

    #4
    If you take about a quarter of an inch off the bore of a raptor threaded barrel it will fit a tigershark.

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      #5
      Originally posted by Moodog View Post
      If you take about a quarter of an inch off the bore of a raptor threaded barrel it will fit a tigershark.

      https://www.ebay.com/itm/16080820398...wAAOxyxU1Q6QoM
      Reeeaally? 😁

      I guess I'll have to get one of those.
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        #6
        Originally posted by glaman5266 View Post
        What's your velocity like? If it's low and the washer behind the hammer spring doesn't boost velocity, could you thread the inside of the bolt for a velocity adjustment screw like a Trracer or Phantom?
        The reason for the shim behind the hammer is that the hammer bottoms out before the power tube. By shimming, I hope to open the tube a tiny bit farther. I don't think it will gain me much, but I'm gonna try (because... eh, why not).

        I will shim behind the bolt, and install a slightly lighter valve spring. I'll also polish the power tube a bit to improve airflow (again, why not?), and I am likely to ream the ASA port the help the marker breathe slightly better.
        Last edited by Ironnerd; 05-06-2021, 11:51 AM.
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          #7
          Stage I complete.
          New barrel. Raptor barrel with a trimmed breach end. Looks much better!
          20210505_180415[1] by Iron Nerd, on Flickr

          20210505_180432[1] by Iron Nerd, on Flickr

          I still need to file and polish it to glorious smoothness but it does fit and looks great. I will also have to add a shim to the outside of the barrel to reduce pump-rattle.
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            #8
            I have parts if you need...

            Best,

            Smiley

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              #9
              You can see one of the "extra holes" the previous owner drilled in the trigger guard if you click on the link for the 1st picture in post #7

              That's going to take some time to figure out . Maybe JB weld.
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                #10
                They're speed holes. You can't just fill in the speed holes!

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                  #11
                  makes it lighter weight... better fuel efficiency
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                    Arghhhh....

                  #12
                  Remember the Dye Matrix releases? Every fraction of an ounce you can shave off is a huge improvement.
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                    #13
                    Originally posted by glaman5266 View Post
                    Remember the Dye Matrix releases? Every fraction of an ounce you can shave off is a huge improvement.
                    Uh... huh...

                    Still, now I want to weigh the thing to see if I should ponder the possibility of lightening it a bit.

                    On another note...
                    The gap between the new barrel and the pump handle is about 0.016" I should be able to address that with a few strips of brass or plastic glued to the barrel
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                      #14
                      I aired up the Tiger Shark yesterday and checked it out.

                      The Good:
                      It works, has no leaks, is accurate, and is really quiet.

                      The Bad:
                      It is REALLY hard to pump. Especially when compared to the Razorback III (which is like buttah).
                      It's a bit of a gas hog; I only got about 20ish shots from a 12g. The Razorback III got 30.
                      It double feeds like crazy.

                      No idea what the velocities were since I have no chrony at the house yet, but I think it is shooting in the higher 200's. I have several shims behind the bolt to bump up the speed a bit, and that seem to be causing the bolt/hammer to kink when cocked, and that is causing a LOT of drag against the power tube. I polished the PT until it was nice and shiny, and it helped a little. It looks like it is mostly the bolt kinking, the hammer looks like it stays straight.

                      I think the air-hogginess is caused by the hole in the bottom of the body where the useless ball detent was sitting. I removed the detent, and now there is a small opening (0.030 ish) in front of the bolt O-ring.I'll put the detent in just as a plug to see if that helps at all.


                      And... update

                      I plugged the detent hole with a detent. Together with the polishing of the power tube and opening the power tube inlets a little, I was able to get over 40 useful shots from a 12g. Pumping is still a bit heavy, but I lubed the forward part of the PT with white lithium bicycle grease, and that helped a bit.

                      As for speeds... no clue. I have the heaviest main spring I can find and the softest valve spring. I also have about 3/8" of washers between the bolt and main spring. So... whatever velocity she's shooting, it's about as fast as she's gonna get.

                      And it is still really quiet and pretty darn accurate as well (people-size at 20 yards = super easy shot).
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                        #15
                        "The Tiger Shark barrel cannot be bored for freak inserts,"

                        I have a bunch of freak bored stock Tigershark barrels from TyMcNeer of Brass Monkey Customs. I assume he's re-joined the forum, but I haven't checked.

                        He also did a valve job so all the holes in the power tube are fully exposed. After that I've been fine adjusting velocity with the same collection of springs I use for my 007.

                        Now I just need someone to make a Trracer/Phantom style velocity adjustable bolt.

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                          Oh... REALLY...
                          That's good info. Thanks!

                          I was going to check the fit of a Razorback III or Bushmaster bolt in the Tiger Shark. I'll let ya know
                          Last edited by Ironnerd; 06-03-2021, 06:00 AM.

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                          Thanks. Ty looked into modifying an ACI Hornet bolt, but the dimensions didn't work.
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