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    Metal disc - part 27A - replacement

    So Spyder part 27A, the small metal disc that sits between the plastic spring guide and the RVA, is out of stock everywhere and Kingman won’t make them anymore. 3D printing them is silly, because plastic obviously won’t work. But that leaves some of the used Spyders that I pick up in bundles without the disc, putting their plastic spring guides at greater risk of breaking.

    Has anyone found a source for an acceptable replacement?
    Originally posted by Chuck E Ducky:
    “You don’t need a safety keep your booger hook on the bang switch.​“

    #2
    A small machine screw washer?

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    • lhamilton1807
      lhamilton1807 commented
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      Yeah I might look for something at Ace Hardware. The problem I have with washers is that there’s a hole in the middle, and that’s where the RVA hits the spring guide.

    • Toestr
      Toestr commented
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      Unless I'm missing something I don't think the setscrew for the adjuster will be small enough to protrude through the hole in the washer.

    #3
    What about printing the spring guide itself? Print the base a little thicker to make up the difference. I've always hated those metal disks anyway, easy to lose and other times it bends.

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    • lhamilton1807
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      I’ve thought about that, but I’ve seen some spring guides with holes bored into the back of them by the RVA pin.
      Agree on the flat disc issue - they’re way too easy to lose. I definitely prefer the all-aluminum integrated RVA & spring guide design they’re using on the latest generation of markers. The new Spyders just don’t have the flair that older generations did.

    #4
    Flat washers will work just as well. They are inexpensive too. If you're really looking for the original discs, I've some. Let me know.
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    • lhamilton1807
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      Cool, I’l see if I can find some flat washers with small enough of a hole that the RVA can’t poke through.

    • scottieb

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      You won't want the RVA to push through. The RVA should press against the disc.

      I've not looked for complete discs at the hardware store but one would think they are there.

    • Norcal98
      Norcal98 commented
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      If you still have some of these disc's, I'm in need. Long story short, got a parts gun to fix up the old spyder compact back to original. Let my son take it out this weekend and my father in law took it apart and lost it the disc the first time out after I got it up and running. I tried to message you, but I guess my account is too new.

      Not sure if you can message me? or when I'll be allowed to send a message...........

    #5
    i dont think i ever broke one of the golf tee's before. or even seen them break for that matter? ive seen the wrong end cap screws used that dug into the side but never seen one broken.

    if youre trying to keep something period correct, im sure i have some to spare if needed.

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    • lhamilton1807
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      Thanks! I have the spring guide/golf tee. It’s the metal washer that goes between it and the RVA that I’m missing.

    • Tarsun2
      Tarsun2 commented
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      ya' thats what im talking about lol
      im sure i have a bunch of the metal discs

    #6
    I bet Ace hardware will have something comparable, and if they don't you could always just use a pliers to hold a dime against a grinder. Grind that dime down to size.
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    • Brokeass_baller

      Brokeass_baller

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      I would go with a gold dollar. Yeah, it's more expensive, but you get what you pay for.

    • lhamilton1807
      lhamilton1807 commented
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      Lol now I know how you got your MCB handle 😂

    • Brokeass_baller

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      😁

    #7
    I would try parkrose, they have a huge fasteners section that's pretty much where I get all my screws from

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      #8
      Get some thin shim stock and use tin snips to make a circle roughly the size of the spring guide. Then super glue it to the end of the guide to eliminate it from bending. The disk is there just to make sure the rva doesn't eat the plastic guide so a shim will 'armor' it.

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        #9
        Originally posted by scottieb View Post
        Flat washers will work just as well. They are inexpensive too. If you're really looking for the original discs, I've some. Let me know.
        Scott - Do you still have a few of these discs around? My account is too new to be able to send you a message, so trying the hard way to get a hold of you in hopes you see this.

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        • scottieb

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          I can dig one up for you. Once you have a certain number of posts under your belt you will be able to send private messages.

        • Norcal98
          Norcal98 commented
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          Appreciate it. I see my in box notified me of this response, but not sure how many times I have to post or if these "comment" types count toward being able to message. I hate to just randomly post about nothing, clogging up the forum, but I suppose that might be what has to happen.

        • Carp

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          Norcal98 ... "Comment" type responses do not count towards your "post count" goal. But, you only need 2 more "post replies". Your main set back is time/days. On your 11th day, having made 3 or more "replies" , Velcor shall smile upon you and grant you full PM privileges. 😉

        #10
        Someone give me some dimensions. Thickness, diameter, etc. We have a hole stamper in the tin shop at work. I'm pretty sure I can convince the tinner to punch a few. We have all kinds of aluminum, and we have stainless, but I'm not sure about the thickness we stock normally.
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        • scottieb

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          The discs are very thin. I'll try and get some pics and measurements up since this has turned into a hot topic - not until this weekend though.

        • Brokeass_baller

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          scottieb Not a problem. The tin shop isn't going anywhere

        • William the Third

          William the Third

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          The tin shop...

        #11
        Originally posted by Carp View Post

        "Comment" type responses do not count towards your "post count" goal. But, you only need 2 more "post replies". Your main set back is time/days. On your 11th day, having made 3 or more "replies" , Velcor shall smile upon you and grant you full PM privileges. 😉.

        appreciate the info. Have to put the response here to get the credit......... that and keep serving my time. thanks again

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          #12
          Originally posted by scottieb View Post

          I can dig one up for you. Once you have a certain number of posts under your belt you will be able to send private messages.
          Just checking to see if you had a chance to look around. I gotta be getting close to the 11 days and this should be post 3 so hoping the message system will work for me. When you get a sec. Thanks

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          • Carp

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            FYI.. My math says Oct 5th is the day you're awaiting. 😉

          #13
          The discs measure in around 11mm (7/16") in diameter. I haven't calipers so I used a tape measure. They are just under 1mm in thickness. Unsure of the material but one would think it's cheap-o steel. Here are some pics:

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            #14
            They stick to magnets so I would assume cheap o steel

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              #15
              Got a hold of one of those discs and a big thank you to Scotti for getting that to me so I can get my old spyder up and running. So +1 on to him for that.

              I took some pics of the actual dimensions. In case anybody in the future wants to make some.

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