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    Ebay pirate project log.

    Some of you reading this may know I bought a pirated KP off Ebay several weeks ago.

    When it arrived it was in rough shape and missing some essential components like a hammer and mainspring. (Insert picardfacepalm.gif)

    I contacted the seller, who told me, cheerfully, that he'd check his parents basement for the missing parts, as he was in the process of cleaning it out. (My assumption is that was where it was found and then promptly placed on Ebay.)

    So, no help there.

    So, I took the KP apart, made a list of what I needed, and started searching the Internet for suppliers.

    PPS got a chunk of money from me - I ordered a fast changer, feedtube plug, 12 gram Dynavalve with seal kit, detent, and a few other misc. odds and ends. Still waiting on them to fill and ship my order, actually... hopefully it gets in the mail soon.

    JG Airguns had everything else I needed, thankfully... I sourced a mainspring, hammer, trigger, valve, and retaining pins for the trigger group.
    Last edited by Jordan; 09-15-2021, 07:42 AM.
    And God turned to Gabriel and said: “I shall create a land called Canada of outstanding natural beauty, with majestic mountains soaring with eagles, sparkling lakes abundant with bass and trout, forests full of elk and moose, and rivers stocked with salmon. I shall make the land rich in oil so the inhabitants prosper and call them Canadians, and they shall be praised as the friendliest of all people.”

    “But Lord,” asked Gabriel, “Is this not too generous to these Canadians?”

    And God replied, “Just wait and see the neighbors I shall inflict upon them."

    #2
    So far I've stripped down and cleaned the body, cut a quickstrip slot, cut a dropout slot in the lower tube, and drilled out the air transfer hole and tapped for a valve setscrew.

    I installed two wedgits in the barrel, too. Click image for larger version

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    And God turned to Gabriel and said: “I shall create a land called Canada of outstanding natural beauty, with majestic mountains soaring with eagles, sparkling lakes abundant with bass and trout, forests full of elk and moose, and rivers stocked with salmon. I shall make the land rich in oil so the inhabitants prosper and call them Canadians, and they shall be praised as the friendliest of all people.”

    “But Lord,” asked Gabriel, “Is this not too generous to these Canadians?”

    And God replied, “Just wait and see the neighbors I shall inflict upon them."

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    • BrickHaus

      BrickHaus

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      Slot work looks really nice. Machined. Or hand cut?

    • Jordan

      Jordan

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      Dremel and files... one day I'll have a mill, but it's not that day yet.

    #3
    JG Airguns sells Sheridan valves that they have custom CNC'ed for them, apparently. Now that I have one in hand, they appear quite similar to a PPS valve, with a larger throat and exhaust passages compared to a stock Sheridan valve.

    I've modified mine a bit more a la PPS, with two passageways drilled and tapped for setscrews and some internal porting on the air transfer port.

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    And God turned to Gabriel and said: “I shall create a land called Canada of outstanding natural beauty, with majestic mountains soaring with eagles, sparkling lakes abundant with bass and trout, forests full of elk and moose, and rivers stocked with salmon. I shall make the land rich in oil so the inhabitants prosper and call them Canadians, and they shall be praised as the friendliest of all people.”

    “But Lord,” asked Gabriel, “Is this not too generous to these Canadians?”

    And God replied, “Just wait and see the neighbors I shall inflict upon them."

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      #4
      Looking good, keep us posted on the progress!
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        #5
        I look forward to seeing how this progresses!
        https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/b...a’s-feedback

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          #6
          Jordan What is your method for getting right depth of wedgits? I love the progress so far. Looking forward to seeing the finished project.

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            #7
            Can I ask what the purpose of the set screws in the valve are? Looks awesome thus far.

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            • XEMON

              XEMON

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              The goal is to plug all the holes except the top one.
              This increase efficiency and velocity.
              Another way of doing it is to fill in the outside groove of the valve body and leave the top open.

              The drawback is that when you assemble the valve you have to make absolutely sure the opening is facing up, otherwise you obstruct the transfer port.

            • Jordan

              Jordan

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              Yes, what Xemon said.

              That's why I drilled and tapped a hole through the lower tube as well, so when the valve is installed I can visually check on valve port alignment and then plug the bottom port of the valve with a setscrew.

              PPS does that in their performance tune, which is basically what I'm doing - enlarging air transfer ports in an attempt to maximize flow, which hopefully means lighter springing and more shots per 12 gram.

            #8
            Originally posted by Loophole View Post
            Jordan What is your method for getting right depth of wedgits? I love the progress so far. Looking forward to seeing the finished project.
            Mostly just go slow and constantly verify progress with a visual check. Since I'm putting two in, I don't have to go as deep so I've tried to make them as even as I can, as viewed from inside the barrel.

            I've tested with some paintballs and they're working great right now but I don't have anything really small on hand, so I'm likely going to need to deepen them. We'll see.
            And God turned to Gabriel and said: “I shall create a land called Canada of outstanding natural beauty, with majestic mountains soaring with eagles, sparkling lakes abundant with bass and trout, forests full of elk and moose, and rivers stocked with salmon. I shall make the land rich in oil so the inhabitants prosper and call them Canadians, and they shall be praised as the friendliest of all people.”

            “But Lord,” asked Gabriel, “Is this not too generous to these Canadians?”

            And God replied, “Just wait and see the neighbors I shall inflict upon them."

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            • XEMON

              XEMON

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              If you go too deep or need to smooth them out, a socket the right size pushed through from the back works great ...

            #9
            Did a bit of hot work while I'm waiting for my parts to arrive... added a sight bead to the front and used the dropout cutoff to make a sight rail.

            Guess what the sight bead is made out of.

            I tried my hand at a forced patina, too... not sure about it yet, I'll look at it in better lighting tonight.

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            And God turned to Gabriel and said: “I shall create a land called Canada of outstanding natural beauty, with majestic mountains soaring with eagles, sparkling lakes abundant with bass and trout, forests full of elk and moose, and rivers stocked with salmon. I shall make the land rich in oil so the inhabitants prosper and call them Canadians, and they shall be praised as the friendliest of all people.”

            “But Lord,” asked Gabriel, “Is this not too generous to these Canadians?”

            And God replied, “Just wait and see the neighbors I shall inflict upon them."

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              #10
              I wanna force patina my mac 1. Im even more interested in this project now.

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                #11
                Looking good, clever idea on the "bead" and sight 👍

                Let us know how the forced patina turns out, I've been wanting to try it for a while myself ...
                Love my brass ... Love my SSR ... Hard choices ...

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                  #12
                  I let it sit to dry all day, gave it a rinse, and.... looks like this:

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                  I'm not really a fan, so I scrubbed it with a nylon brush to get the green off, looks somewhat better now.

                  I'll probably steel-wool it to even out the coloring, I like it better before I messed with it.
                  And God turned to Gabriel and said: “I shall create a land called Canada of outstanding natural beauty, with majestic mountains soaring with eagles, sparkling lakes abundant with bass and trout, forests full of elk and moose, and rivers stocked with salmon. I shall make the land rich in oil so the inhabitants prosper and call them Canadians, and they shall be praised as the friendliest of all people.”

                  “But Lord,” asked Gabriel, “Is this not too generous to these Canadians?”

                  And God replied, “Just wait and see the neighbors I shall inflict upon them."

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                  • Alexndl

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                    I like this patina for a pirate build, if it was me I would consider a darker tint for the wood stock next (or a flamed/chared finish)
                    Great work!
                    Might do similar work for a single shot PGP this winter

                  • NONOBLITUS

                    NONOBLITUS

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                    How did you keep the mixture from effecting the inside ? It’s a pretty cool look you are doing so far.

                  • Jordan

                    Jordan

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                    I used paper towels - soaked them in vinegar, sprinkled salt on them, then wrapped the body up.

                    I sanded the body down and I may retry with a different method... the patina looked great until it dried, then it just looked dull and old, not what I had envisioned.

                  #13
                  Yeah man, I think the action of the vapors in the free air get you that good patina effect. When I do it, Im going to plug the body, and suspend it on a wire in the air of the ammonia.

                  Pretty much gonna follow this with mustard also in the mix.

                  MAr can you confirm the mustard? Yellow mustard itself, or mustard power?
                   

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                  • Jordan

                    Jordan

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                    Thats what I'm trying next. I think my mistake was not starting with clean brass, it already had that brown tarnish buildup old Sheridans get.

                  • Grendel

                    Grendel

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                    Any mustard works but the cheap yellow seems to have the lowest PH. You can take lace like fabric and lay that on brass before applying mustard to get neat effects.

                  #14
                  I’ve never seen this before and what a great idea. Waiting to see next steps.

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                    #15
                    Here is a forced patina thread I stumbled across on the old MCB on the Wayback machine. The progress pics aren't there, but the final result photos are on the first post. Looks pretty.
                    Pirates Curse Patina (Tittle Edited To Suit The Contents) Enjoy! - mcarterbrown.com (archive.org)

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