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    #16
    I can’t support another section until every visits the sidearm sub forum and does their pasta duty.

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      #17
      OK, I see that a dedicated sub-forum is not a feasible idea at this time. It is a pity, as some tankers and AT crews are using FB or other channels that do not serve the same purpose as a discussion forum. An exchange of ideas is almost not happening there. So maybe in a while.

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        #18
        I thought it was a cool idea . For what it’s worth.

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          #19
          I dont see why there could at least be a post trying to regroup discussion on tank and AT
          and if there is enough interest in it you could check with a mod to create a sub section with pictures, build thread and discussion

          You can start one here and see how it goes.
          https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/p...aneous-markers

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          • SEAR
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            Good idea. I'll consider it, thanks!

          #20
          You could just start with a tank/AT thread like this one.

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          • SEAR
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            I could. But the thread "disappears" in a big groups such as "The Dead Zone" quickly. Moreover I'm not sure there are any tankers or AT crews left over here.
            Last edited by SEAR; 10-16-2021, 12:36 PM.

          #21
          What are tanks and AT's actually using for launchers these days? I almost only see Havoks and from what I've picked up on most fields ain't really allowing homemade launchers?

          For what its worth I think Tank and AT would fall under the "Custom Projects" or "DIY tech" fourms, I would love to see this kinda stuff on here.

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          • SEAR
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            In US, it is (sadly) pretty much what you described. Simple and pretty much the same launchers for tanks and anti-tank, foam rockets agains tanks and fortifications only, little innovation in the past 20 years afaik :/

          #22
          Yep, Havoc launchers are the standard because just about every field accepts 2* nerf and KNA rockets. I haven't personally seen a JCS launcher on the field since, well, the last time I used one. Sear, what innovation(s) do you have in mind?

          custar

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            #23
            I mean innovations like marking chalk rounds so there is no need for referees to be present everywhere (vehicle hits will be very well visible). And that could potentially enable anti-personnel usage at long distances and more realistic tactical impact of tanks (so tanks won't be just MG bunkers anymore).

            Hand-held AT weapons could use some invention as well (they may be styled as PzF or RPG, but still shoot the same foam rounds). Even simple and effective short-range AT grenades (such as Panzerwurfmine) - nonexistent!

            Effective and safe mortar systems with tactical usage? Again, almost none. That is what I mean by the lack of innovation

            My personal goal is to merge paintball and WWII reenactment (strongly emphasizing paintball part of course). But this is a long run as well.
            Last edited by SEAR; 10-19-2021, 01:11 PM. Reason: More info

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              #24
              Would love to attend one of these events. They look like a blast.

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              • SEAR
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                Let's see what happens first. You coming to Europe or my creations reaching US

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                Europe has some fun looking fields , at least from what I have seen in videos.

              #25
              Originally posted by SEAR View Post
              I mean innovations like marking chalk rounds so there is no need for referees to be present everywhere (vehicle hits will be very well visible). And that could potentially enable anti-personnel usage at long distances and more realistic tactical impact of tanks (so tanks won't be just MG bunkers anymore).
              Chalk might work. Paintballs embedded into the nose of rockets has been tried and did not work well. Taking out buildings with AT is another matter. Considering some of the buildings are so covered by paint that chalk wouldn't make a discernible mark, refs in that circumstance would still be needed. As far as tanks being just MG bunkers, that has not been my experience. Especially at OK D-Day, the tanks are more than mobile bunkers. I was involved in a number of engagements between three to five tanks from each side. I guess the effectiveness of tanks depends on the game's rules and the ingenuity of the tankers.

              Originally posted by SEAR View Post
              Hand-held AT weapons could use some invention as well (they may be styled as PzF or RPG, but still shoot the same foam rounds).
              Agreed on that. There are not a lot of Havocs available for sale. A new supplier would be welcome.

              BTW, at OK D-Day AT was marker-in-a-tube. The tube had to have some semblance to a Panzerfaust or Panzershrek for German player and a PIAT or bazooka for Allied players. It is a lot different hunting tanks when the AT player and the tank's AP have the same range.

              Originally posted by SEAR View Post
              Effective and safe mortar systems with tactical usage? Again, almost none.
              Agreed on this also. The only ones I know of were made by Scepter, and IIRC, only about 200 total were made. The mortars worked better than the hand-held 37mm launcher.

              Originally posted by SEAR View Post
              That is what I mean by the lack of innovation
              Thanks for the discussion and the thoughts. Hopefully, paintball will recover to the point there is money to be made in innovations in this area.

              custar

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                #26
                Originally posted by custar View Post

                Chalk might work. Paintballs embedded into the nose of rockets has been tried and did not work well. Taking out buildings with AT is another matter. Considering some of the buildings are so covered by paint that chalk wouldn't make a discernible mark, refs in that circumstance would still be needed. As far as tanks being just MG bunkers, that has not been my experience. Especially at OK D-Day, the tanks are more than mobile bunkers. I was involved in a number of engagements between three to five tanks from each side. I guess the effectiveness of tanks depends on the game's rules and the ingenuity of the tankers.
                custar
                Paintballs in the nose are worthless, I agree. But the hit with the chalk round makes a big puff of colored cloud. On our games, players themselves are often able to tell the hit and react accordingly. The same with targeting infantry at long distances, which is the greatest benefit of this ammo.
                You can have tank vs tank engagements with foam rounds, but you are stick to paintball markers against infantry.

                Originally posted by custar View Post
                Agreed on that. There are not a lot of Havocs available for sale. A new supplier would be welcome.

                BTW, at OK D-Day AT was marker-in-a-tube. The tube had to have some semblance to a Panzerfaust or Panzershrek for German player and a PIAT or bazooka for Allied players. It is a lot different hunting tanks when the AT player and the tank's AP have the same range.
                custar
                My idea is more about shooting Panzerfaust 30k or PIAT, where the whole realistic-looking warhead and not just a paintball or a foam round comes from the inside and is able to hit target at 30-50 yards. It is not only about the visual impression, but about the whole experience of using the weapon and shooting it

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