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    Solution to Inconsistent Paint = Overbore?

    I'd like to avoid creating thread # 458943534 on underbore vs overbore.

    Finally got out to play over the weekend, and this particular field offers unlimited paint at $25 per player which I haven't come across before. With entry and air, my own gear, paid just over $40 for the day. Not bad at all!

    This unlimited paint is field paint of course, and field paint is typically mehhh as we all know. Inconsistent sizing, dimples, etc. When attempting to size it, I was able to fit a few through a .685 back with force (blowing or pushing through with squeegee) but got a few roll throughs, so I opted for .680 back. Worked fine, no breaks or noticeable rollouts.

    Having a barrel kit is cool and all but I got thinking: do I really need a kit when playing pump + meh paint? I could just have a "middle of the road" sized back plus anti roll-out fingers and not worry about anything, right? If I remember correctly, overboring leads to better consistency, but not so much efficiency which is fine with a 68ci and a pump.
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    1) I'm sad you didn't invite me
    2) how many games did you play? Curious how the unlimited paint thing works out, only thing I can think of is limiting the number of games you play. I imagine most people stop playing before they use enough paint for the field to start losing money.
    3) if you're using the anti roll-out fingers, yeah an overbore is definitely the way to go. With inconsistent paint (what are they using?), an overbore will be more consistent. If you had good paint, an underbore will be at least equal or more consistent, but with bad paint obviously that won't work as well.

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      #3
      Unlimited paint......

      Screw the rest of this thread

      Unlimited paint

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        #4
        Originally posted by Magmoormaster View Post
        1) I'm sad you didn't invite me
        2) how many games did you play? Curious how the unlimited paint thing works out, only thing I can think of is limiting the number of games you play. I imagine most people stop playing before they use enough paint for the field to start losing money.
        3) if you're using the anti roll-out fingers, yeah an overbore is definitely the way to go. With inconsistent paint (what are they using?), an overbore will be more consistent. If you had good paint, an underbore will be at least equal or more consistent, but with bad paint obviously that won't work as well.
        1) It was super last-minute and also I removed myself from facebook. We'll chat!
        2) I played a bunch. Didn't even go through 500 haha.
        3) Cool, and I just need to test it out. Got them fingers in my tool box but never used. With how little I play, thinking I could sell off the barrel kit and just one decent one + fangers and not worry about anything else.
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          #5
          I approve of unlimited paint......this is a great discussion topic, under what conditions could a field make money versus lose money with an unlimited paint model!
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            #6
            Originally posted by Meleager7 View Post
            I approve of unlimited paint......this is a great discussion topic, under what conditions could a field make money versus lose money with an unlimited paint model!
            I first told them I'll just take a bag of 500, which would have been more expensive than doing unlimited. I thought the same...how y'all making money
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              #7
              Originally posted by iamthelazerviking View Post

              I first told them I'll just take a bag of 500, which would have been more expensive than doing unlimited. I thought the same...how y'all making money
              What field is this?

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                #8
                It's called SB Paintball in American Fork, Utah. They mostly do rental parties, I'm guessing the unlimited paint thing works because people lose the will to play before people shoot more than a bag. That's my guess, at least.

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                  #9
                  maybe they are trying to enlist the conscience of the player to get you to care about their bottom line? like man, i don't want this field to go out of business, better not shoot too much...

                  if i've retained information properly, i think 20+ years of paintball ballistics testing showed that underboring is good for efficiency, and overboring is good for consistency, both to a degree of course. i think it was also determined that bore matching was the worst of both worlds.
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                    #10
                    Yeah man, for rec play when you don’t know how good the paint will be when you show up, I think detents, big bore and big tank are the winning combo.

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                      #11
                      You're playing pump, you're not shooting much so you have time to hand sort your balls between games. Go through your balls and remove all the dimpled ones and any ones that don't look round. Then get a ball sizer and sort them into piles of different sizes. Only use from a specific pile for a specific game.

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                        #12
                        Yes.

                        I've gone to a moderate to large overbore on open bolt guns. Just works better with the crappy paint now. On closed bolt I try to get just on the edge of a paint match but on the large side. Rollouts will happen which isn't a huge deal on a semi auto but on a pump I run detents.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by MuKen View Post
                          You're playing pump, you're not shooting much so you have time to hand sort your balls between games. Go through your balls and remove all the dimpled ones and any ones that don't look round. Then get a ball sizer and sort them into piles of different sizes. Only use from a specific pile for a specific game.
                          seems like a lot of work though! might even be counter productive here in sweaty florida...
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                            #14
                            It is work, but when I'm at a field-paint only field playing pump, it's worth it to me

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by GreenMan View Post

                              seems like a lot of work though! might even be counter productive here in sweaty florida...
                              Well once you view it as work it is

                              Like messing around in the target range before a match. just becomes part of the afternoon of play.

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