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  • MrBarraclough
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    Mechs these days can have shockingly high peak ROF, but that's not a sustainable ROF, at least not for anyone but a small handful of highly skilled tournament players. So while it is possible to catch a 15bps burst from a mech, and it will hurt just as much as from an electro, it is less likely to occur. And because of the effort it takes to let off a really high ROF string with a mech, even those players with the skills are only going to do it deliberately. With a ramping electro, it's far easier to overshoot someone without even really thinking about it.

  • uv_halo
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    The simple answer is: What is the field allowing?
    Every field in my area except one, had "Semi-Auto Only" rules and ramping is not Semi Auto. That leaves out folks who can walk their triggers which, I would simply enforce a 8-10 BPS cap on any electo guns. Unfortunately, there are no ways to go any further for new, double finger mechanical guns, or response triggers.

    flyweightnate. You said it well in regards to the number of balls in the air. When someone commits to walking the trigger on someone, there will at least be three balls in the air before the first one hits.

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  • flyweightnate
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    Originally posted by cellophane View Post
    Stupid thought-
    Other than the finger speed required (skill?), what's the difference between someone ramping, someone shooting uncapped semi that can hit 15+, or a mech with a hair trigger? 15bps is 15bps regardless of how it is achieved. I've seen a video from one of the ICPL events where someone was accused of cheating because of the insane ROF they could get with a CVO. I of course can't find it currently, but he was easily close to 20bps.

    And to parrot others- field & player culture plays a huge role, regardless of marker type.
    To me, the biggest difference is the extra balls in the air. If a kid pops out in the wrong spot, or you catch a guy coming around a corner, they tend to get a multiple of three. The extra two in the air after you see the first is going to hit can really ruin someone's day, and if you're just numbly sustaining the ramp without thinking, it can be six.

    I was messing around after a game, the first time I brought it my Torque, wanting to show people how capable it was. Pure semi, I easily was at 15, maybe 18, just shooting a tree. But in game, I can't keep up even 10 without focusing. And more importantly, when I stop, the gun stops. If someone comes around a corner at close range, it's a huge difference.

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  • Chuck E Ducky
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    Sometimes but those rental emeks can be just as ruthless sometimes. They just don’t know they are hitting shots when, you’re waving at them calling the first handful that hit. Nerves, and adrenaline pumping they just slinging paint at whatever moves including the guy in front of them on their own team.

  • Chuck E Ducky
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    Especially if you already hit your shots to sustain and it’s pumping out 3-4 a pull.

  • Trbo323
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    Originally posted by cellophane View Post
    Stupid thought-
    Other than the finger speed required (skill?), what's the difference between someone ramping, someone shooting uncapped semi that can hit 15+, or a mech with a hair trigger? 15bps is 15bps regardless of how it is achieved.
    In that scenario there is no difference. The problem though is most of these players can't hit 11bps on semi because they have only ever used ramping. They have no practice pulling the trigger faster than 5bps and typically with only one finger because that's all they have ever needed to do.

    Hell I've been playing for 19 years now and can't hit 15. I max out at 13 and only with my right hand but it's also not like I'm practicing or anything, I don't care to crank out some crazy bps on semi.


    Also when doing something like a run through it's harder to bonus ball the crap out of the birthday kid if you need to pull that trigger for each ball. If the marker is adding a bunch in it's easier to keep that stream going while running



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  • Cyberpyr8
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    I think the difference is that people shooting semi are already trying not to shoot as much and would be more likely to not try and hit 20bps. I can hit fast speeds on my Emeks but I come with the mech to shoot less and hit more. If I am going to try and shoot that fast, I might as well get an electro and turn on ramping. But even when I had a double trigger electro on semi it was capped at 10.

  • Chuck E Ducky
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    That’s pretty much how I feel about it. However a new player with less experience and something to prove can really rune a day without haveing the experience to know what he,s doing. So I get it and agree, it’s really the person behind the marker. That’s why I really don’t care what people use as long as they respect other players and get out when shot.

  • cellophane
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    Stupid thought-
    Other than the finger speed required (skill?), what's the difference between someone ramping, someone shooting uncapped semi that can hit 15+, or a mech with a hair trigger? 15bps is 15bps regardless of how it is achieved. I've seen a video from one of the ICPL events where someone was accused of cheating because of the insane ROF they could get with a CVO. I of course can't find it currently, but he was easily close to 20bps.

    And to parrot others- field & player culture plays a huge role, regardless of marker type.

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  • Cdn_Cuda
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    I try to do private booking when I play. Usually put out an open invite to people and get a decent turn out and it’s a lot of fun. No morons on the field, can play whatever game we like. Definitely my favourite way to play.

  • Trbo323
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    It's pretty pathetic if a player feels they need ramping against a new player with a rental.

    It's a mixed bag where I am, one field wouldn't care at all

    One field I've been told semi auto only

    Personally I like a field I used to play at before we moved, if there were a lot of new and rental players they would tell anyone with an electro "walk on rules" which meant, semi auto and only 1 finger on the trigger

    These days I just play pump/mech of that's the case

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  • Siress
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    *plucks banjo*

  • Brokeass_baller
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    Yeah, this is just a family friendly wet t-shirt contest

  • Carp
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    Originally posted by Jonnydread View Post
    How do you folks feel about ramping in rec walk-on games?


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  • William the Third
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    I just found a new favorite sport to watch... well at least the women's competition! Five very attractive women wearing skin-tight suits getting all wet and slippery? Yes, please!
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