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    Dye DSR+ Mech Frame



    Looks like dye is finally finishing up the dsr+ mech frames and opened it up to preorder. Freeflow has them available too with some ups.





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    #2
    Very curious to see how these do, how people like them
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      #3
      According to my buddy, the first 100 sold out so fast that they are offering the extras to anyone who purchases through this weekend.

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        #4
        Dye's email had the same price listed as the FF. Trying to figure out which is the better deal.

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          #5
          I ordered one, now I just need to buy/trade for a DSR+

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          • iamthelazerviking
            iamthelazerviking commented
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            I thought about doing that too haha. I just love my 3M so much but these peaked my interest.

          #6
          I did get to handle and shoot it at ICPL. Very light trigger pull, nice and snappy too. Docfire was right when he said it almost feels like a cocker slider pull.
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          • superman

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            I believe that is what they were looking for. Was basically the same tactile feel but modern.

          #7
          Thought about getting one but gonna hold out for Freeflow's inevitable PL version.

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          • iamthelazerviking
            iamthelazerviking commented
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            True, I forgot they are releasing that

          #8
          Any word on efficiency?

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          • imped4now
            imped4now commented
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            I think that Gtek/160R valve was pretty rudimentary and didn't totally shutoff the supply from venting past it during the firing cycle.

            The DSR valve most definitely does this.

          • BrickHaus

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            Fun fact. I have a 160r and they legacy mod kit. I never use it though, so I cant comment on efficiency

          • Lotus
            Lotus commented
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            I have that legacymods kit and I have used it. It's like shooting uncapped semi in an electro. I can't really tell the difference. It DOES leak air if you hold the trigger down, so as long as you don't do that, you're mostly OK. Efficiency is definitely worse, but only gets terrible if you have a habit of holding the trigger down. If that's the case, efficiency is garbage.

          #9
          I wonder what makes it incompatible with the standard DSR, and how easy it would be to adapt to work on the DSR.
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            #10
            On the note of efficiency, and my comment reply above regarding a post I had seen about new valve/parts: I inquired more and Dye said "After a more thorough investigation - it was primarily maintenance items causing the issues with DSR+ efficiency. There is no need for any new parts for the DSR+ for good efficiency".

            The few efficiency videos I have seen range from 8-10 pods on a 68 or 77ci, and on ramping mode or something fast...so if the thing is well maintained and you're using the mech frame, I don't imagine efficiency will be a problem.
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            • FullContactUSA
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              DYEs engineers have acknowledged there have been a handful of markers that had completely dry Orings in the solenoid, and at shot counts where no maintenance should be requires yet. Fortunately(ish) they made it user serviceable and a nice coat of slick lube has done the trick on these guns. And dye slick lube smells so nice.

              All that said. I like the marker enough I want another one I a different color, so one can be dedicated mech.

              And I can't believe how cheap people are selling them for.

            • iamthelazerviking
              iamthelazerviking commented
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              FullContactUSA yeah proper maintenance goes a long way, as it should! Dumb question since I am not super familiar and haven't looked into it in much depth, but will this use the existing solenoid? Or like Eclipse mech conversions, have a different valve for mechanical use?

              When I was hunting for one, the prices were all over for used. One guy wanted 800 and another wanted 725 for the one I ended up getting, and then saw others posted for even less. But I wanted all black, including the ASA, which is a color swap offered by ANS (or other outlets like Mazen who swap parts) and was able to get just what I wanted. I don't plan on using it until the mech frame arrives though!

            • imped4now
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              The existing solenoid is electronically actuated (piloted), obviously, so that will be removed and a mechanical switch put in its place for mechanical actuation. If one wants to run the electronic components in the single frame, those can be swapped over.

            #11
            I might not be understanding right, but I belive the mech frame comes with its own mechanically operated valve, and an adapter to convert to the single E trigger.

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            • iamthelazerviking
              iamthelazerviking commented
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              Appears so after taking a closer look

            • imped4now
              imped4now commented
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              Correct-o-mundo.

            #12
            I also haven't ordered my mech frame yet, there are too many markers on the site that I want for my bag already, and my wife is gonna kill me.

            I keep trying to explain to her that in this bear market economy it's probably wiser to invest in autocokers than the nasdaq.

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              #13
              I've seen several complaints of the mech frame making the marker's efficiency even worse, and gritty trigger pulls. Not trying to bash it since I don't have any personal experience, but that doesn't sound great.

              Also Dye now has a $90 "pro" kit for the DSR and + that claims to increase efficiency and consistency...and seems like it's more for the electronic version.
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                #14
                I haven't been to the field with it, so I can't comment on efficiency yet, but after setting it up with a bit of air I had left in a tank I can say that the trigger on mine felt smooth and snappy. I actually think I like it better than the electronic trigger once I got the magnetic breakaway cranked up as much as I could. With the short pull and light tension, it still feels like it could be an electro. Hoping to play this weekend, so I'll update if I do.

                With a lot of the efficiency complaints that I've heard, it sounded like lubing the solenoid spool fixed the problem. Apparently a number of markers shipped from the factory dry. I'm wondering if this might be a similar problem with the new mech frames.

                I also ended up pre-ordering the IM Pro upgrade kit for shits and giggles. From what I saw, only the new solenoid spool is exclusive to the electronic DSR+. The bolt, back cap and regulator upgrades will work with mech framed DSR+'s and base DSR's as well.
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                  #15
                  Went out to the field and didn't notice anything too out of the ordinary in regards to efficiency. I will say, though, that when it was out-of-the-box brand new it acted a bit funky the first day I took it out. When I got home I did a full tear-down and service. The bolt and reg looked like they were over-lubed to the point where I had grease oozing out of some of the holes in the can, and the solenoid spool looked pretty dry. After I gave everything a good wipe-down and re-greasing, it's been humming along ever since.
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