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    Field update:

    I took mine to the field this past week and ... It went ... ? ...

    Here are a few points:
    - Shot at 220 fine, started breaking over that (~70f ambient; .690 freak insert)
    - Crazy amount of double feed, normal stroke and detent in place.
    - After 1 game, all the mounting screws for the frame were loose, everything was flapping around. Again, 1 game ...
    - the spring recess on the back got dented in by the hammer/hammer pusher so the spring compresses to the side. I'm gonna make a spring guide to prevent that spring from bending sideways.

    So ... Got some work to get a normal game going ..

    Edit:
    I talked to Scott and I have a bit of a different perspective on things. He pointed me towards a potential alignment issue causing the breaks over 220fps. I will test and report back 👍
    Last edited by XEMON; 04-02-2024, 05:51 PM.
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    • RuleOfSines

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      I was previously giving them the benefit of the doubt that it would work better in warmer weather, but it appears that was unwarranted

    • XEMON

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      I talked with Scott and they are starting to see that issue on their markers too. If the sliding elements (front piece+rods+thumb pusher) are not aligned properly they get wired air flow and break paint in the breach.
      I need to make some test and see if I can replicate that.

      Also they upgraded the orings they are using so they shouldn't come off the main valve rod shaft.
      Again, I'll test it and see how it goes

    Originally posted by RuleOfSines View Post
    Got mine working! Only needed a completely redesigned front end.
    I went a different route on mine.
    I wanted the ball to seat in the bore too, so I pushed the freak insert back 😁

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    Love my brass ... Love my SSR ... Hard choices ...

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    • XEMON

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      No detent yet, but i have a few ideas I need to try.
      I do have a way to retain the insert so it doesn't flop around when pumping.

    • superman

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      were you able to use a normal back with an xl insert or did you have to make a custom tip to too?

    • XEMON

      XEMON

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      I dont have an XL insert on hand, but i dont think the length will match up.
      Right now i have a spacer in front of the insert. Long term i will either get a set of XL and trim them to length or make a barrel that is bored at teh right depth for the insert. There is always the option of getting custom barrels made ...

    So, tested the phoenix out with 40 rounds.
    stock class silver phoenix, w/ silenco barrel and pwr inserts .687 and .683
    input psi- 500psi
    Fps- 254 avg. Tuned from lowest to high and backed off till started dropping again.
    No side paddles installed
    With slight alterations to the trigger catch and rear trigger spring holder.

    observations:

    1) this thing will not go above 256 fps when turned all the way up, probably too much space around ball, barrel, and breech.

    2) only one break 7 shots in, then ok after that.
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    3) the pwr inserts, even at .687 size stick into the breach with a lip. So my theory is that either the detents are to stiff and sharp that the ball gets cut by them, or ramps them up into the lip of barrel. Or a combination of detents and the lip from breech to barrel becoming smaller smacks the round into the lip and breaking paint.

    4) one screw on the trigger assembly runs right into the velocity adjustment hole. So I had to back it out in order to adjust velocity. Good thing this marker is so easy to take apart...lol. sigh

    5) very light crunching when pumping. Really didn't feel it was a problem.

    6) feeding paint still sucks, need to trim the ball catch a tad more.

    7) no problem with feeding from feed to breech. (No double feeds)

    8) i like the on/off for the air

    9) felt fine pumping from rear or barrel. I have bigger hands so a little easier for me to thumb pump the rear.

    10) the breech and barrel movement has a small click when seated all the way flush. I feel it could use a little more room so the barrel doesn't need a slight hand seating flush to the back of the breech.

    11) shot pretty accurately and liked the adjustable grip. Needs some room with the macro line for more play and adjustment.

    12) it is still shooting, so yay!

    13) why is it two toned in color? Two different grey/silvers on the anodizing.

    ​​​​​​​14) looking forward to trying it out in a game to see how it really holds up. Fingers crossed.

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    • XEMON

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      For #4 out of the 3 frame screw, 1 is shorter as to not protrude into the velocity adjustment hole.
      For #5, I had pretty bad spring crunch, and found a defect in the back block of the body that was catching on the spring and pushing it to the side, after cleaning the back block it got much smoother.

      Thanks for sharing your experience 👍
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