Vbulletin

[Cunha]

Can we all start a begging campaign for them to improve modern versions of vbulletin like the one we use here now?

Every click and every action has significant delay its takes me 4 times longer to do anything than it did on previous board or other not yet hacked vbulletin boards.

Sorry, not just trying to complain but is there anything that can actually be done to improve site performance?

[RuleOfSines]

Testing Ajax call real quick...

[RuleOfSines]

The new VB seems to have shifted very heavily towards Ajax calls, which in theory can speed up Perceived performance, if not always actual. That said, posting new content took 5.99 seconds, even though very little data was moved over the wire. It could be an issue of database performance, though the autosave feature posts nearly identical data, and completed in 114ms.

[RuleOfSines]

Also a lotta console logs running, those can add some performance overhead.

[Cunha]

Even though it is way over my head, those actual metrics and seemingly meaningful words you posted really make me feel better about the whole thing. At least someone understands and can quantify it. I was going to mention it took my thread 5 seconds to post, but I didn't time it and it was just a seat of pants estimate, and most of us aren't taking a stop watch to messageboards.

I just have a LOT of surf time on MCB and right now it takes me an hour to do 20 minutes of surfing and it makes me only come here out of hard headed loyalty.

The initial post here took a full 5 seconds also, just sitting there watching the screen be frozen while it tries to update. Very interesting about the autosave being 114ms while the new content posting taking almost 6 seconds. Do you think this is from the console logs?

Also, when I am in the small reply box the whole text jackhammers up and down while I type shifting up and down every couple of key strokes no idea why.

If I hold shift it just cycles constantly up and down.

I just don't think Vbulletin current version HAS to be this bad. They are forum software company and I can't imagine they would make something with such disregard for actual user experience with sole focus on adding new features...Hopefully.

Seriously thanks for the response Sines.

[RuleOfSines]

Yeah don't worry its not just you, I had been kind of undecided myself if it was truly slower, or the user experience just felt slower. The software is definitely of a more modern style than the previous one, but when they hang it can lead to a janky user experience when different operations hang.

Console logs wouldn't likely be cranking up the time to that level, they're sort of a free performance item to check off a list.

Text editors can often be janky too, jiggling about like you're seeing. Sometimes that can be do to a style being triggered under a certain condition, then that style results in the condition being cleared, which then creates the condition again, and now you're in a loop until you stop whatever the original condition was.

The big performance killer is whatever is going on at the 'POST: create-content/text/' endpoint, when we actually create a post. The loading of the data after that call completes, is quite fast.

[Cunha]

I am active on a different messageboard that still runs older version vBulletin and switching between that forum and this one almost causes physical pain at holding my muscles still waiting to be able to start typing and THINKING again while waiting for loading to finish. First world problems. Maybe. But its an actual problem, a messageboard doesn't need to perform this badly.

Its funny PBNation switched to some mobile preferring version of whatever platform they have and made it almost unusable on my cell phone and I still barely visit the site as a result. Of course this happened when PBN was tanking due to facebook use anyways but, its still a shame.

[Painthappy]

Yeah, going to start playing with things to speed that up.

[Cunha]

Thanks for your efforts Painthappy.

[lrrpie]

Just saw this but I've noticed the lag when clicking the post button. It's not a server resources issue; must be something to do with database performance. Carter and I are trying to figure it out.

[Painthappy]

I made a few changes this morning. Looks like the calls and replies are quicker now. Hopefully it will stay this way. May have given up a few of the back end things, but overall I would rather give up being emailed about a post and have the speed on the front end. Will keep a close eye on this, but hoping this has been resolved (fingers crossed)