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Old 01-29-2020, 08:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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rawbutter's pneumag gallery

I've been getting lots of "What frames can I use for a pneumag?" questions recently, and I realized I needed a thread to discuss prices and show off my work.

As far as prices go, it can vary widely.
  • I can install a basic, basic set-up with a Clippard ram and a Fabco MSV-2 for $50 + parts (usually another $60 for the pneumatic parts and $30-$50 for the LPR).
  • A more advanced set-up with a custom-made piston and a MAC-33 solenoid valve runs $75 + parts ($40 for the valve and $30-$50 for the LPR)
  • A sleeper set-up in most frames is an extra $25 on top of whatever else you want, but a sleeper set-up inside of an Intelliframe or carbon fiber frame is a whopping $75 (I know) because I have to custom-build a manifold and do extensive milling to the frame.


As far as pictures of previous work go, well....here are a few examples.

Dye NT frame
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Vertical Angel frame
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Vertical DM3 frame
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Dye DM5 frame
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Planet Eclipse ETEK 1 frame
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Dye PMR frame
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Old 01-29-2020, 08:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Standard Intelliframe with Ion regulator (instead of a standard LPR)
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An earlier attempt at a PMR frame, with off-set mounting and a vertical piston
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Sleeper Intelliframe with manifold
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And a stock CF pneumag frame...
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I'm glad you put them all up together. All this time I kept thinking they were iterations of the same frame.

Nice setups!
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Do you make the piston from scratch or you are buying them?
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Do you make the piston from scratch or you are buying them?
That's a great question.

Some of my older projects in the gallery used off-the-shelf pistons, but I make my own for most of the new jobs. I start with an aluminum block and mill it to fit the frame. Then I drill and ream a hole for the piston. I use polished steel rods and u-cup seals to make the rams.

The reason I go through all this effort usually has to do with the geometry of the frame. I would much rather buy a piston from Clippard and be done with it. They're cheaper and probably better than mine. However, many frames don't have enough material on both sides to mount a piston. Or there isn't enough space between the trigger and sear. But I can make pistons that have strange shapes, and I can make them very, very short. I think the shortest one I've ever done was for an ETEK frame, and that one was about 1/2 inch long.

Here's an example of a custom bracket/piston thing I made for an Angel frame.

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You can see that this Angel frame has a big gap on the left side where the grips go, so I can't use a Clippard ram there. There's nothing to hold it in place. Making my own housing gets around that issue, and it gives me plenty of space to mount the pneumatic valve underneath the piston.


Here's another custom piece I made for an NT frame. It mounts to the frame with the grip screw holes, and the extension on the bottom is where I mount the MAC-33 solenoid valve.

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All this time I kept thinking they were iterations of the same frame.


I guess the pictures can be deceiving because I almost always use the same valve/body/rail combo when I want to show people what the frame looks like on a marker. I only have a few options to choose from for my mock-ups.
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Here's another sleeper Intelliframe I built recently. This one uses a direct mount ASA instead of a rail-mounted ASA.

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