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Old 11-26-2010, 04:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Barrel bore scratches, do they matter?

Hey guys,
Just got some quick questions for you regarding scratches in the bores of barrels. I have done some searches and read through some of the older threads related to the subject, but they all seemed to turn into a flex hone vs. homemade polisher war. Just to get all that out of the way, if I ever were to get my barrel flex honed I'd rather pay someone who has one to do it, or I'd go the cheapo route and make one of the polishers out of wooden dowels like described by some in older threads.

Basically I'm just wondering if scratches in the barrel bore matter? Not deep gouges that would be obvious they'd break paint, but the really light and streaky looking type, in large numbers.

I recently got a barrel back in a trade, and it's bore still has some nice shine to it and it's pretty smooth, but it's loaded with light scratches from pretty much end to end, and all the way around the bore. Kinda hard to see them all in the day looking through the bore, but if you get light at certain angles or hold it up to a light while looking through, you can seem them all. They all seem pretty straight too, going in the direction of the barrel tip. I have'nt had a chance to shoot it yet, so I was just curious and thought I'd ask you guys to see what your experiences with bore scratches were like. Running my finger inside, I can't really feel anything, but again, there's lots of them. Pretty much the whole bore is filled.

I've seen some of the older responses saying that they did'nt matter if they were going in the right direction, or they did'nt matter if they're light, but there's always people who disagree too, so I just wanted to get some thoughts on this. Also, I may feel like polishing it up a bit, and maybe trying to get some of the really light scratches out. Can anyone who has rigged up one of the wooden dowel polishers post up some pictures of yours? Just curious to see what worked for you. If anyone has pictures of barrels with scratches to show what is still an acceptable amount, that would be excellent!

Before anyone says to scrap the barrel, it's a pretty pricey one, DYE Titanium, and I've been trying to get one of these for a long time so I really want to try and work with it. Thanks!

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Old 11-26-2010, 05:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Fine scratches going the direction of the ball dont really matter. I haven't seen negative effects from really worn out barrels versus ones with really mirror bores.

A dye ti back could be polished to a mirror sheen again pretty easily, but I wouldn't do it. No reason to waste bore material making it mirrorlike only to use the barrel again and eventually scratch it. Really those backs shouldn't really get scratched unless someone is shooting dirty dusty paint or playing in a dusty environment.
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Theoretically, yes scratches would matter. But I'd say probably not in real life. My old nelspot has a horribly pitted barrel(not scratches, divots), but it shoots really straight.
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this may be frowned on but i have used floor wax in some of my really worn barrrels ran a squeegie through let stand on end( you have to let it stand on end or it pools) then take half a battle swab and a drill to polish it works for a good while. although porting becomes a slight issue
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I dunno if you could remove material from it. Almost nothing cuts titanium. I have no idea how you scratched it to begin with :P
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Hard to cut but easy to scratch. My ti boomstick is starting to show scratches. There was a thread a while back about whether or not paint could cause barrel scratching. Some scientist dude that worked with optics chimed in about how you can scratch metal with the dust on your finger.
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I dunno if you could remove material from it. Almost nothing cuts titanium. I have no idea how you scratched it to begin with :P
I got it used, so it came to me like that.

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Theoretically, yes scratches would matter. But I'd say probably not in real life. My old nelspot has a horribly pitted barrel(not scratches, divots), but it shoots really straight.
That's awesome. Got any pictures of the inside?

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Fine scratches going the direction of the ball dont really matter. I haven't seen negative effects from really worn out barrels versus ones with really mirror bores.

A dye ti back could be polished to a mirror sheen again pretty easily, but I wouldn't do it. No reason to waste bore material making it mirrorlike only to use the barrel again and eventually scratch it. Really those backs shouldn't really get scratched unless someone is shooting dirty dusty paint or playing in a dusty environment.
Yeah I think it may have came from a dusty playing environment. Came from California.
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Hard to cut but easy to scratch. My ti boomstick is starting to show scratches. There was a thread a while back about whether or not paint could cause barrel scratching. Some scientist dude that worked with optics chimed in about how you can scratch metal with the dust on your finger.
Any chance you have pictures of your Ti's bore?
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Clearing after a break in the barrel will be the worst issue when scratches are present in the bore. Other than that, just buff the bores with a micro fiber cloth to raise the shine, and you're all set.
I have experimented with RainX in cases such as this. And it does help clear barrels out much easier than bare alloy. I don't think they shoot much better with RainX, they just clear out faster.
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