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Old 11-07-2015, 01:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thinking about picking up one of these for a hack-and-slash build. Decent shooters? Any thoughts or things I should know? Better to try and snag a Mag or something?
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We used to use the later model Mirage (identical other than no vertical ASA or powerfeed and different grips) at a field I worked at. Solid reliable shooters. Barrels are not quite cocker threads, but seem to be close enough.

Basically a tippman with a smaller, lighter, more streamlined body. Though the valve is more like a Mega-Z or Stingray (shooting air goes through the middle of the valve pin, not around the outside of the valve).

Only mechanical issues on the old fleet where sometimes the valve seal which is pressed into the valve cap would separate. Amazingly the gun would still seal, fire, and recock when this happens, but chronoing would suddenly become difficult. Sometimes the urethane valve o-rings would develop air bubbles in them, but that was after a few years of constant CO2 use. Easy to replace those anyways. Switching to a different o-ring material fixed it for good. About the only critical failure would be the bolt linkage arm breaking, happened pretty rarely, and these were used and abused rentals, but something to keep in mind. It may be hard to source a replacement these days.

I'm really surprised these weren't found in more tinkering projects. The titan was all set up to receive all the standard upgrade parts with out needing any major fabrication.
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Old 11-07-2015, 05:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm really surprised these weren't found in more tinkering projects. The titan was all set up to receive all the standard upgrade parts with out needing any major fabrication.
That was my thought; it's essentially a self-contained metal tube so it'd be good for a few different projects. Evidently they don't like liquid Co2 though, and I WAS planning to do a 4oz off the vert ASA...
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Vert tanks are pretty much as good as you can get when it comes to liquid prevention. Go for it.

Though keep an eye on those outer valve o-rings.
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Old 11-07-2015, 07:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have one. Mine was always problematic...

See this thread:

Mokal Titan - too much oil = jackhammering
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I'm really surprised these weren't found in more tinkering projects. The titan was all set up to receive all the standard upgrade parts with out needing any major fabrication.
I remember I used to buy up all the cheap mirages I saw on ebay. Lots of fields used them as rentals in the 90s, so really cheap ones used ones were always around.

I had all sorts of ideas for projects, like 3 or 4 barrels guns, or milsim whatever. They had tiny bodies good for conversions. But in the end, they never seemed to function well enough, and I mostly canibalized the nice lonestar bottomlines and junked the rest.
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