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Old 03-24-2017, 10:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Steel braided hose filter?

Are these still made? I found it on my mag. I assume it's some kind of filter?

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Old 03-24-2017, 11:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It looks like a breather vent/muffler. It is being used as a filter to trap particles.
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I've seen a few markers with the sintered brass filters, all from the age of co2. Filtration is one thing, but I also think the massive amount of surface area in the brass would reduce co2 from passing through in liquid state.

The inline water traps I use for airbrushing also have these types of filter.
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Word. Thanks for the info.
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Old 03-24-2017, 09:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yes, this was marketed as a way to stop "going liquid"
Proline and Proteam both had these micro filters as small black in line filters, and sometime later AGD had them integrated right in the braided.
Liquid was a real problem on Mag's, AS tanks,remote lines, 3 coils of braided looped on mag was common, cooper T even made a 3.5 CO2 tank into a liquid trap, ran vert on a mag.
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Yes, this was marketed as a way to stop "going liquid".
The purpose of the filters was to prevent reg creep. Especially on Automags.

It was a horror show in the early 90s. Nobody really understood "dirty co2", until automags started getting hot gun penalties at every tournament.

Basically, dirt/debris from the co2 tank would clog the reg, and prevent the valve from seating properly, allowing it to creep pressure higher and higher. Eventually to the venting point, but your FPS will be hot if you havnt fired in a while.

AGD starting shipping guns with a preinstalled filter, and sent filters to all the dealers. The problem diminished until cleaner HPA eliminated the issue.

I remember around 93, some tournaments had to have special "mag rules", allowing them to have "clearing shots" at the chrono, specifically to avoid the hot gun penalties because teams were getting so pissed.
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That's a fun bit of history. Dirty no good CO2...
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Spyders came with the filter pressed into the vertical ASA in the "Compact" model. Over time, these sintered bronze filters would clog up, starving the valve. I used to just drill them out.
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They are still in most Spyder markers today. They are much smaller than in the picture though, and are nestled between an o-ring on the marker side of the tank ASA.

They just pop out easy. If running 800 psi, stock, doesn't affect airflow enough to matter.
I did need to pop mine out for my 350 psi spyder MR2.
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