Consolidating Efficiency..?

artguy63 · 05-12-2012, 12:21 AM

I'm not sure if there already is a thread out there that covers this. If there is, mod (cough cough CJ) please delete.

So, with all the various upgrades and accessories that people can put on their Phantoms, I have seen multiple threads on how people are running them, their opinions, etc etc. Rather than searching through multiple threads, I figured perhaps we could start a consolidated thread where people can see the set up and numbers that people are getting.

For example, I'll start.

VSC Phantom
- ASP Roundhead body
- Deadlywind barrel with full freak kit
- 3.5 oz tank
- (soon to have bobbed and gauged valve)
- stock internals
- CCI O-ring TPC
- stock springing

I'm averaging about 250ish shots out of a single fill. This is on days that are about 65-75 degrees, and also before the valve work.

BassDude · 05-12-2012, 01:07 AM

Not a bad idea. Here's mine. They are only the upgrades pertaining to efficiency and consistency with 12ies.

ASP Detent Modded Body
Deadlywind barrel
SSC Tri Fluted Hammer
Polished Internals
Red Main Spring, Stock Valve Spring
ASP O-Ringed Ported Open Faced TPC
Palmer's Sideline Stabilizer set at 500 PSI

On a test with 20 seconds between each shot, I got 38 shots before drop off occurred with an average of 276 fps. Almost all shots were +/- 5.

esparzar · 05-12-2012, 01:21 AM

14" Deadly Wind Barrel
Stock Internals
Bobbed & Gauged Valve
04' Dye Hyper Reg set at 750ish psi
drop forward macro line and hardline kit with a 13/3000 tank
Fps sitting around 270

76* degree weather and 100% humidity standard shooting averaging around 150 shots plus 3 dry fires.

808Jackal · 05-12-2012, 07:27 AM

Nice idea

Phantom #5
ASP Roundhead with detents
Dye ultralight back SSC freak bored 14' carter whoosh tip
SSC tri fluted hammer
Stock TPC
Red main spring Yellow valve
Punishers customs bobbed and gauged valve
HSC bottom line 6 .5 inch steel braided hose + QD
Georgia gunsmithing dry film lubricant on internals

76-80* avg weather
Standard to fast shooting at 280 fps and below
38+ shots off a 12 gram

Halo · 05-13-2012, 07:21 AM

Stock CCI body (added teflon tape to both feed block and front grip frame screw)
Trracer BBA
Azodin Regulator screwed into BBA set to around 490 PSI
11" barrel bored for Freak inserts
ASP TPC
Polished Stock Bolt
Polished stock hammer
Stock Power Tube
Red Maddman Spring as main
Very light valve spring (non-standard, but similar to or lighter than Autococker sear spring)
HSC bottom line with macro line running to reg.

Velocity set to an average of 275 FPS
25-27 degrees Celcius (77-80 f)
about 5 seconds between shots (the time it takes me to put everything down, write down FPS values and then shoot again.)
42 shots at set velocity + two shots below ( 250, 220, vent)

Recently acquired a SSC fluted hammer and am experimenting with increased post reg valve volume as I've found that current valve volume might be starving the marker at sub 600 PSI pressures. Preliminary testing is proving positive. I'll update this when I've redone efficiency testing.

Dr. VonDeafingson · 05-16-2012, 08:58 AM

I'll get some numbers this weekend and edit this post when I do. You should ask Tim to get numbers on his stab valve phantom.

Good idea, Alex.

Phantom_Dave · 05-17-2012, 11:19 AM

VSC
Stock internals
Red Main spring
CP Reg - Set to 500psi ~
Freak barrel
13/3k bottle on a ASA
275 fps -/+ 5

150-160~ in game, if i was careful and slowly fired off one at time may get 175
This setup is very consistant, only change is check freak insert in the afternoon. Usually changes 1 or 2 sizes.

Scharfschutze91 · 05-17-2012, 12:02 PM

vsc
freak bored 12 inch barrel
asp ported tpc
red main spring

shooting around 280 +/- 5ish
90* weather + 80% humidity

I get around 42 good shots from a crossman 12 gram.

p-bpat · 05-17-2012, 12:20 PM

Vsc duckslide phantom
Duckslide (I only mention this because it covers the barrel porting)
6 inch ssc freak bored barrel
stock cci internals (lightly polished)
red main and stock valve springs
hardline front vert to valve

I get a good 35 shots out of it right now (warm, outdoors) at approximately 270 fps, but when I turn it down to indoor speeds (250) I get around 38 shots.
I am getting a ssc fluted hammer and will post again with the new info and more accurate information.
Pat.

funsi00 · 05-17-2012, 09:04 PM

VSC with Palmer phantom stab set at 500PSI
Silver valve spring, Blue main spring
8 inch CCI barrel bored for Ifit inserts
Stainless steel braided airline
New oring TPC, stock internals
outdoor velocity 279,279,280 over chrono
Insert match paint, not underboring
160 shots on 1 oz of CO2 from 3.5oz tank.

05-12-2012, 01:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
BassDude Active Member Join Date: Apr 2011	Not a bad idea. Here's mine. They are only the upgrades pertaining to efficiency and consistency with 12ies. ASP Detent Modded Body Deadlywind barrel SSC Tri Fluted Hammer Polished Internals Red Main Spring, Stock Valve Spring ASP O-Ringed Ported Open Faced TPC Palmer's Sideline Stabilizer set at 500 PSI On a test with 20 seconds between each shot, I got 38 shots before drop off occurred with an average of 276 fps. Almost all shots were +/- 5. __________________ My Feedback: https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html

05-12-2012, 01:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
esparzar Yuengling Drinker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bowling Green, Ky	14" Deadly Wind Barrel Stock Internals Bobbed & Gauged Valve 04' Dye Hyper Reg set at 750ish psi drop forward macro line and hardline kit with a 13/3000 tank Fps sitting around 270 76* degree weather and 100% humidity standard shooting averaging around 150 shots plus 3 dry fires. __________________ MCB Feedback

05-12-2012, 07:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
808Jackal Stock class SPAM Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Honolulu, HI	Nice idea Phantom #5 ASP Roundhead with detents Dye ultralight back SSC freak bored 14' carter whoosh tip SSC tri fluted hammer Stock TPC Red main spring Yellow valve Punishers customs bobbed and gauged valve HSC bottom line 6 .5 inch steel braided hose + QD Georgia gunsmithing dry film lubricant on internals 76-80* avg weather Standard to fast shooting at 280 fps and below 38+ shots off a 12 gram __________________ MCB Feedback https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...ml#post1313253

05-13-2012, 07:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
Halo Foreign Eedjit Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: South Africa	Stock CCI body (added teflon tape to both feed block and front grip frame screw) Trracer BBA Azodin Regulator screwed into BBA set to around 490 PSI 11" barrel bored for Freak inserts ASP TPC Polished Stock Bolt Polished stock hammer Stock Power Tube Red Maddman Spring as main Very light valve spring (non-standard, but similar to or lighter than Autococker sear spring) HSC bottom line with macro line running to reg. Velocity set to an average of 275 FPS 25-27 degrees Celcius (77-80 f) about 5 seconds between shots (the time it takes me to put everything down, write down FPS values and then shoot again.) 42 shots at set velocity + two shots below ( 250, 220, vent) Recently acquired a SSC fluted hammer and am experimenting with increased post reg valve volume as I've found that current valve volume might be starving the marker at sub 600 PSI pressures. Preliminary testing is proving positive. I'll update this when I've redone efficiency testing. __________________ MCB Feedback Last edited by Halo; 05-13-2012 at 10:50 AM.

05-17-2012, 12:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
Scharfschutze91 Buzz Killington Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Fort Sill, OK	vsc freak bored 12 inch barrel asp ported tpc red main spring shooting around 280 +/- 5ish 90* weather + 80% humidity I get around 42 good shots from a crossman 12 gram. __________________ United States Army Officer

05-17-2012, 11:19 AM	#7 (permalink)
Phantom_Dave Old man with a pump Join Date: May 2012 Location: Alabama	VSC Stock internals Red Main spring CP Reg - Set to 500psi ~ Freak barrel 13/3k bottle on a ASA 275 fps -/+ 5 150-160~ in game, if i was careful and slowly fired off one at time may get 175 This setup is very consistant, only change is check freak insert in the afternoon. Usually changes 1 or 2 sizes.

05-17-2012, 12:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
p-bpat Seasoned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada	Vsc duckslide phantom Duckslide (I only mention this because it covers the barrel porting) 6 inch ssc freak bored barrel stock cci internals (lightly polished) red main and stock valve springs hardline front vert to valve I get a good 35 shots out of it right now (warm, outdoors) at approximately 270 fps, but when I turn it down to indoor speeds (250) I get around 38 shots. I am getting a ssc fluted hammer and will post again with the new info and more accurate information. Pat. __________________ Canadian Response Feedback: https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html Tell me why I had to be a powerslave. I don't wanna die, I'm a god, why can't I live on? When the Life Giver dies, all around is laid waste. And in my last hour, I'm a slave to the power of death. Last edited by p-bpat; 05-26-2012 at 06:56 PM.

05-17-2012, 09:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
funsi00 MCB Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cleveland, Ohio	VSC with Palmer phantom stab set at 500PSI Silver valve spring, Blue main spring 8 inch CCI barrel bored for Ifit inserts Stainless steel braided airline New oring TPC, stock internals outdoor velocity 279,279,280 over chrono Insert match paint, not underboring 160 shots on 1 oz of CO2 from 3.5oz tank. __________________ My feedback on MCB : https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html Brass Mafia - team status S4

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