CCM Product Manuals / Video Series / Parts Kit 'how to'. (UPDATED!) - Page 3

swamphawk5 · 04-24-2013, 04:23 PM

Fantastic work TF. Thank you so much.

pirhana92 · 04-27-2013, 09:51 PM

Instead of making a new thread ill just ask my question in here. My T2 isn't very consistent over the chrono. It spikes alot. It will shoot 285, 290, 278, 300. I'm using a good paint to bore match. What could it be? I do chrono it in the morning when it's somewhat cold. Could that affect? Should I take apart my reg and maintain it and set the pressure back to 350psi?

Thanks.

WoodsBaller57 · 02-21-2014, 10:43 AM

TF,
I was just reading thru your SS-25 manual, (which I think is fantastic) looking for info about the possibility of setting up the SS-25 in a Stock Class configuation using 12 grams. I attend the Spring Pump Event in Central IL in April and they are pushing to have more games with Stick feed and 12 gram markers. I would like to do it but I would prefer to do it as simply as possible. I would like to play certain games stock and the rest open class with a hopper and HPA without too much time disassembling and reassembling.

In researching I saw that the SS-25 was initially intended to meet the Stock Class "niche". I also saw that people recommend running the CO2 thru the ASA into the reg and possibly adjusting the reg to a different setting. In one of your videos, I saw that you mentioned in passing, that the SS-25 can be fairly efficient on 12 grams.

What is your experience with CO2 with the SS-25? Are changes in spings necessary? Can it go unregulated? Or does it have to go thru the reg? Should I adjust the reg to compensate for the difference in pressure?

I have watched most of your tech videos and have learned a bunch. In fact a couple days ago. I pollished my hammer and guide rods. The cocking rod is in a matte finish, I assume to match the look of the marker. Is it benefitial to polish that too?

One thing that I noticed that might need correction in the SS-25 Manual, is under Xll Maintenance: it says that an "Autococker Valve Tool" is needed. It isn't needed because it has a "Spyder Valve" as I remember you saying in a video.

Thanks in advance for your response.

Best Regards,

Mark
Woodsballer57

Talfuchre · 02-22-2014, 09:29 AM

Mark - I hit you up on PM - but I will answer here.

1) I have found that 12 grams work fine on the SS-25 valve train - IF you regulate them. So - put a changer in the bottom line - and go for it. I think you will get about 30 - 35 shots with all other things working well.

2) If you want to truly run it off 12 grams without the reg - you can expect a bit of a long road. You will need to work on minimizing space within the VRA chamber and different springs.

Honestly - it will never be truly stock class - and a 12 gram run through the reg simply makes it easier. That is the way it will go - and also - if you are running a 12 gram pump on a stock class feed in today's 20 BPS forever world - you are working enough in my mind.

3) You do not need a cocker tool for your marker. In fact - I wouldn't take the valve body out UNLESS you get a leak. Getting it back in without cutting the o-rings can be tricky for the unitiated - take this slowly if done and watch my videos for help. A dowel that allows you to push the valve from back out the front (like 8 inches or something) is all you need.

Good luck bro - one of the best body types out there. Our team captain still uses his SS-25 and it took us to a lot of podiums - still works just fine.

TF

WoodsBaller57 · 02-24-2014, 12:06 AM

TF
Thanks for your input. I had some yesterday fun shooting with 10 round tubes and Constant Air. I am not sure if I will try going going with 12 grams or not.
I really appreciate the videos that you have out, both the tech videos as well as the "So You Are New to Pump" series. I am not new but I have picked up some good tips none the less. The tip to let non pumpers shoot your pump after they have asked questions, is a GREAT way of being a Pump Apostle, Spreading the Pump Word.
My Son with his T2 and Me with my SS-25 went up against a number of players who had never seen a pump till yesterday. It was fun educating players.
Thanks Again
Mark
Woodsballer57

noclue119 · 04-08-2014, 12:13 PM

So I shared this on my facebook but forgot to post it here.

And here is a list of parts
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...rive_web#gid=0

04-27-2013, 09:51 PM	#22 (permalink)
pirhana92 The Game Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Findlay, Ohio	Instead of making a new thread ill just ask my question in here. My T2 isn't very consistent over the chrono. It spikes alot. It will shoot 285, 290, 278, 300. I'm using a good paint to bore match. What could it be? I do chrono it in the morning when it's somewhat cold. Could that affect? Should I take apart my reg and maintain it and set the pressure back to 350psi? Thanks. __________________ +19/0/0 Feedback: https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html +22/0/0 TechPB Feedback: https://www.techpb.com/forum/index.ph...pirhana92&st=0

02-21-2014, 10:43 AM	#23 (permalink)
WoodsBaller57 GRATEFUL DEAD-ly Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lincoln IL - in the middle of Illinois.	Ss-25 & co2 TF, I was just reading thru your SS-25 manual, (which I think is fantastic) looking for info about the possibility of setting up the SS-25 in a Stock Class configuation using 12 grams. I attend the Spring Pump Event in Central IL in April and they are pushing to have more games with Stick feed and 12 gram markers. I would like to do it but I would prefer to do it as simply as possible. I would like to play certain games stock and the rest open class with a hopper and HPA without too much time disassembling and reassembling. In researching I saw that the SS-25 was initially intended to meet the Stock Class "niche". I also saw that people recommend running the CO2 thru the ASA into the reg and possibly adjusting the reg to a different setting. In one of your videos, I saw that you mentioned in passing, that the SS-25 can be fairly efficient on 12 grams. What is your experience with CO2 with the SS-25? Are changes in spings necessary? Can it go unregulated? Or does it have to go thru the reg? Should I adjust the reg to compensate for the difference in pressure? I have watched most of your tech videos and have learned a bunch. In fact a couple days ago. I pollished my hammer and guide rods. The cocking rod is in a matte finish, I assume to match the look of the marker. Is it benefitial to polish that too? One thing that I noticed that might need correction in the SS-25 Manual, is under Xll Maintenance: it says that an "Autococker Valve Tool" is needed. It isn't needed because it has a "Spyder Valve" as I remember you saying in a video. Thanks in advance for your response. Best Regards, Mark Woodsballer57 __________________ WoodsBaller57...Playin' Pump with my New CCM J2 - Prototype #04! I Love My J2 >>> I TRUELY DESPISE what "Photobucket' has done to the forums. They are Financially GOUGING individuals who have used the service for years or Killing Pictures and in doing so, Ruining the continuity of the forum. See My Feedback https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...=Woodsballer57

02-22-2014, 09:29 AM	#24 (permalink)
Talfuchre Red - Black Join Date: May 2006	Mark - I hit you up on PM - but I will answer here. 1) I have found that 12 grams work fine on the SS-25 valve train - IF you regulate them. So - put a changer in the bottom line - and go for it. I think you will get about 30 - 35 shots with all other things working well. 2) If you want to truly run it off 12 grams without the reg - you can expect a bit of a long road. You will need to work on minimizing space within the VRA chamber and different springs. Honestly - it will never be truly stock class - and a 12 gram run through the reg simply makes it easier. That is the way it will go - and also - if you are running a 12 gram pump on a stock class feed in today's 20 BPS forever world - you are working enough in my mind. 3) You do not need a cocker tool for your marker. In fact - I wouldn't take the valve body out UNLESS you get a leak. Getting it back in without cutting the o-rings can be tricky for the unitiated - take this slowly if done and watch my videos for help. A dowel that allows you to push the valve from back out the front (like 8 inches or something) is all you need. Good luck bro - one of the best body types out there. Our team captain still uses his SS-25 and it took us to a lot of podiums - still works just fine. TF __________________ Pumpenstein - NSA National Champions TF's MCB Trust.

02-24-2014, 12:06 AM	#25 (permalink)
WoodsBaller57 GRATEFUL DEAD-ly Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lincoln IL - in the middle of Illinois.	TF Thanks for your input. I had some yesterday fun shooting with 10 round tubes and Constant Air. I am not sure if I will try going going with 12 grams or not. I really appreciate the videos that you have out, both the tech videos as well as the "So You Are New to Pump" series. I am not new but I have picked up some good tips none the less. The tip to let non pumpers shoot your pump after they have asked questions, is a GREAT way of being a Pump Apostle, Spreading the Pump Word. My Son with his T2 and Me with my SS-25 went up against a number of players who had never seen a pump till yesterday. It was fun educating players. Thanks Again Mark Woodsballer57 __________________ WoodsBaller57...Playin' Pump with my New CCM J2 - Prototype #04! I Love My J2 >>> I TRUELY DESPISE what "Photobucket' has done to the forums. They are Financially GOUGING individuals who have used the service for years or Killing Pictures and in doing so, Ruining the continuity of the forum. See My Feedback https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...=Woodsballer57

04-08-2014, 12:13 PM	#26 (permalink)
noclue119 Newbie++ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA	So I shared this on my facebook but forgot to post it here. And here is a list of parts https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...rive_web#gid=0 __________________ "Originally posted by Element Paintball@pbnation: you realize it would be easier to get a new wife than a new dc2." My MCB Feedback Last edited by noclue119; 04-16-2014 at 08:20 PM.

04-24-2013, 04:23 PM	#21 (permalink)
swamphawk5 rec poser Join Date: Jun 2009	Fantastic work TF. Thank you so much.

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