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Old 08-23-2011, 02:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A Shocking Realization

I've played with many pump guns. Currently, I play pretty much predominately pump. If I feel serious, I'll throw on a hopper. If I feel spiteful, I'll bust out a mech. I've also owned many pump guns. I've owned a range from NelSpots to a Redux, and a lot of goofy stuff in the middle, including my pump Rainmaker.

All that said, I've never owned nor used a properly set up, modern Sniper. I say "modern" and "properly set up" because I currently have a '92 Sniper II and used to play with a factory stock Outkast Sniper II. I wanna see how well a tuned Sniper can run.

I now have a CCM mini kit on the way for my Vertebrae. We'll see whether or not the old saying is true: "The best way to fix a 'cocker is to put a pump kit on it," because I've shot some very well tuned 'cockers...
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Old 08-23-2011, 02:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you want a shocking realization, skip the snipers and grab a Tippmann C3.
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Old 08-23-2011, 02:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Cockers only keep you from playing paintball.

In my experience anyway. Something always breaks. Or doesn't work. Or "hey, this timing is great! lets go to the field!" then at the field it will not work...

Really, the best cocker is one with the pneumatics removed.

With the right tuning, A sniper can be extremely efficient.
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Old 08-23-2011, 02:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The more "high-end" the 'cocker, the more delicate it is. My Vertebrae, in stock form, was solid as a rock (until I got bored and started messing with it). My first 'cocker, a 2k4 VF, was unbreakable. However, the various "aftermarket" 'cockers I've owned were nothing but headaches. I've got a Rudy Dean project I need to work on, and I can only imagine how frustrating that will wind up being...

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Old 08-23-2011, 02:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have a 2k2 VF that I haven't messed with in however many years I've had it. I think it's going on 5 years now. It's my go-to marker too, when I'm not shooting my really quiet Sniper. Not sure what it is about that thing, but it's nice.
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I want to know what the hell is wrong with all your guys' cockers. I've had 2 cockers (one being very heavily upgraded) and I never had any issues with them.
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Old 08-23-2011, 03:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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once I get them happy they tend to stay that way. As the old saying goes - if it aint broke, don't fix it.
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Old 08-24-2011, 08:12 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Cockers only keep you from playing paintball.

In my experience anyway. Something always breaks. Or doesn't work. Or "hey, this timing is great! lets go to the field!" then at the field it will not work...

Really, the best cocker is one with the pneumatics removed.

With the right tuning, A sniper can be extremely efficient.
Ive never had any issues with my cockers yet. But I know them inside out and can time them to near perfection. Its really easy once you learn how.

That said I cant recommend them to someone who just wants to play paintball and not mess around with their marker.

Most of the problems ive seen other people on the field have with cockers is from improperly springing their lower internals or having the HPR pressure way to high or low. Both of which happens to snipers and cockers.

Ive seen just as many snipers have issues on the field as cockers btw.
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You want a bulletproof, badass, reliable pump, get a Pyre. Best investment I've ever made in Paintball. It's like a Sniper, but a lot cooler.
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Building up a well-tuned Sniper is probably one of the best and most exciting things I've done in my short time playing. Properly tuned, they will shoot smooth, consistent, and efficiently. That being said, there's an emphasis on "tuned."
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