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Old 12-06-2017, 09:26 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Pack a Tippmann or a pump of some sort - they will often work in extremely cold weather that no other markers will function in.
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Old 12-06-2017, 09:27 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Pack a Tippmann or a pump of some sort - they will often work in extremely cold weather that no other markers will function in.
True, I will have a gog enmey or mech Ion just in case. Always carry a non electro. [emoji106]

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Old 12-06-2017, 09:32 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Second what Obake said. Pumps are more likely to function than anything else in sh*t weather.
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:54 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Whatver you do, don't try to use a spool valve gun in cold weather. It's going to end badly.
Lies, that's all I ever run.

If you know what you are doing you can get just about anything to work fine in the cold.

For my dm6 I run a 3:1 lubeil ratio and crank up my LPR some when it's really cold. Works great

If you want the easy rout, run HPA and a poppet and if there is a lrp crank it up a bit

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Old 12-06-2017, 11:10 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I try to keep my paint extra warm, and includes keeping the car running and putting the paint on the floorboards with the heat blasting. I also like to keep my gun warm, so I'll store that in there as well. I don't like being cold, so I am sure my gun doesn't either.
I've even seen some people use coolers with hot hand packets in them to store their paint.
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Old 12-06-2017, 12:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I've never seen any benefits from trying to keep paint warm. If anything, doing so is going to adversely impact velocity consistency. It takes very cold temps to get paint to actually freeze (even at 14* F - the coldest I've played in - the fill gets pudding-thick, but doesn't freeze solid), but the shell will follow the common laws of solid thermodynamics (expand slightly when warm, contract slightly when cold). You chrono with warm (slightly larger) paint and dial it in to 280. After you're out on the field for an hour or so, that paint in your hopper and tubes has started to cool and might contract. More air getting by means less propelling the ball and velocity swings aplenty.

Personally, I prefer consistent (if cold) temps. The night before I play, I store my gear in the (unheated) garage, even if that includes paint. I store it in the trunk of the car, so it never really warms up until I'm back home that night cleaning it.

FWIW, I typically play with a Phantom or Pro-Lite, both of which couldn't care less about how cold it is outside. I have a siphon tank for the PL, but sadly can't find a place to get it filled any more.
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Old 12-06-2017, 02:08 PM   #17 (permalink)
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They hate cold weather. I've seen so many of them go down, because it's too cold. My theory is that there's a lot more friction that they have to overcome, in order to operate, in comparison to other designs.

Luxes, dye and shockers are the worst offenders. The Geo might work, and I would assume that an ION based gun would have problems, also.
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What martix says is true, the spools have a harder time of it but I am still of the opinion that you CAN get just about anything working in the cold it's just a matter of how you prepare it.

You wouldn't go up skiing using a car on slick street tires in the snow. But prepare before hand and put some snow tires on with chains and suddenly it's a very different circumstance

Like I said, I run a dm6, thin out my lube a bit, make sure my abs setting is on and usually give it a little more LPR pressure.

Unbalanced spools are a little more difficult, you have to use the dwell setting as there is no LPR

But that aside, like I said, if you want a easy time, grab a poppet

Whatever you use, HPA over co2 will help a lot



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I've never seen any benefits from trying to keep paint warm.
I try to do it to keep the paint shell from becoming too brittle and breaking in the gun.
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Old 12-06-2017, 03:19 PM   #20 (permalink)
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HPA is not absolutely necessary at all. Here in Alaska we have played games in the middle of the winter with CO2 for years. You just need to either run liquid CO2 or some sort of vertical bottle/expansion chamber setup. An old Sniper 2 with vertical 4oz was the most reliable and consistent winter gun I ever used.
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