Paintball

[Fubarius]

Originally Posted by ta2maki

Weren't lazer balls made of foam, like reballs, and not paint?

Yep, got about a 1000 of them. More Nerf like than reballs, quite squishy. Less density than a paintball as well, probably due to all the air in the foam. I don't have a scale on hand, so I can't give exact weights. Sorry.



And yeah, they have a pretty nasty seam on them.

I've played quite a few games with them, but all indoors at ranges of less than 30 feet, at around 150 FPS. Watching them ricochet around the pro-shop was hilarious (and yes, we all wore goggles). And there's nothing more satisfying than lighting up a buddy up who's totally behind cover with a series of well made bank shots off a display case.

Even at that short of range the balls were VERY visible. I always felt that a larger, slower ball could be better for televised events, since they'd show up on camera much more easily.

[Painthappy]

Yup... These were made instead of reballs so kids wouldn't steal them from the places and use them in their own guns at home.

I was just referring to how amazing it is how many calibers have been tried and used already.

[Cockerpunk]

bob long made .70 or .75 rounds and cockers to shoot them.

he was cheating, and it supposedly worked really well.

[Painthappy]

Originally Posted by Cockerpunk

bob long made .70 or .75 rounds and cockers to shoot them.

he was cheating, and it supposedly worked really well.

Really? Now that's cool. I have not heard that one before! Nice.

[HP_Lovecraft]

Originally Posted by Murph

The state lines were based on the path of the river and they re-routed the river when they put in sub pens, because of that NH residents working at the shipyard have to pay maine income taxes. pure BS.

Do they actually teach that in NH? That is not even close to reality.

The river was never rerouted. Originally it was 5 small islands that were combined into 1, and yes, they did add sub-pens. But the thalweg never changed. The thalweg is how borders are setup using a river.

Basically it is the deepest part of the river, and the thalweg today is the same as the thalweg of 300 years ago. There really is no case for NH. However, I'd agree that Maine still has no right to tax them. That I have never understood.

.80's been tried actually... Look up "Lazer Ball"

Also, "IRON BALLS".
About 17 years ago, a team that I will not name secretly worked with a major paintball manafacturer to produce .75 paintballs. The reason is pretty simple: When shot at 300, you get better range, and breaks then a .68 paintball.

And remember, this was back when tournaments were in the woods, and that range advantage was a HUGE advantage.

It is also more dangerous since it would carry more energy. More potential to hurt someone, and damage equipment. Eventually, the secret got out, and now tournaments are VERY SPECIFIC with paint calibers.

So what if you wanted to allow .80? You would have to lower the FPS. Say, make it 200fps, to keep it safe. Then maybe allow .50 to go to 400fps. For a tournament, that is a LOGISTICAL nightmare! Not only do you need to supply 3 different types of paint, you have to train refs to watch for players swapping barrels. NOT going to happen.

[Painthappy]

Originally Posted by HP_Lovecraft

Do they actually teach that in NH? That is not even close to reality.

No.. They do not teach that in NH.. I have no idea where Murph got that and he's growing up in the same hometown as I did...

[Meph]

Originally Posted by HP_Lovecraft

Also, "IRON BALLS".
About 17 years ago, a team that I will not name secretly worked with a major paintball manafacturer to produce .75 paintballs.

Hmmmm...

Originally Posted by Cockerpunk

bob long made .70 or .75 rounds and cockers to shoot them.

he was cheating, and it supposedly worked really well.

[alpha434]

Everyone keeps getting stuck on changing FPS for different calibers.

50 isn't going to get turned up.

Why would 80 get turned down?

Here's the thing... The sport "evolved" around the 11/16th paintball. FPS was decided based upon .68 round and it's average weight and flight characteristics.

This means that there is going to be a real trick to getting a different caliber to be acceptable.

.80?
Will be limited to the maximum weight specified by ASTM of 3.2 grams. Just like the .50. Just like the .68.

Back just 5 years ago, you used to be able to get 3.4 gram balls. But the ASTM standard has eliminated those.

An .80? Well. Worse aerodynamics. Same weight as .68. = poor business venture, unless there's a different theory to work by.

A smaller caliber has the advantage of better aero. But unless the "fill technology" catches up and gets a better density, thee ball will be worse.

[philosophia]

One could try paintballs that have been stuck in snowbanks all winter. They swell to like 1.28 caliber instead of .68 and won't hurt simply because they turn into water balloons.

[Murph]

Originally Posted by Painthappy

No.. They do not teach that in NH.. I have no idea where Murph got that and he's growing up in the same hometown as I did...

I could've completely butchered things or it could have been a jackass teacher (I do believe I went through that particular school system seven or eight years after Carter did.) but that was how I was led to believe it was.