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Old 07-23-2017, 02:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Has Photobucket destroyed the fan built sites?

So, as I am sure everyone knows, photobucket has decided to start charging to allow 3rd party hosting. At first I thought I could just walk away from photobucket and be all good, but as i have began to comb the world wide web in my love for all things paintball, I have come to find that bits and pieces of everything from everywhere are missing.

Is it held hostage? Will it ever return?

This really bums me out, and to be honest, I only found out how bad it had gotten after trying to look back at some previous posts I had made with pictures. They are all gone. I can find them on photobucket, but I can't click and find anything through any blanked out pic I have ever posted ever, anywhere.

This isn't right. We've been had.

Now what?
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Old 07-23-2017, 03:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I was just talking to my dad about this last night. It's pretty ****ed up what they've done to our beloved interwebs.

Edit: I've never used PhotoBucket

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Old 07-23-2017, 03:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Unfortunately yes, it's going to be a big problem for a lot of people. I've already run across more than a few older technical articles posted to older boards and in older threads, that are no longer usable because the images are gone.

Quick tip: Supposedly, if you click on the "speedometer" image, then click again when it takes you to the PB page, and try refreshing once or twice, usually you can still find the photo.

I've tried it several times, and it seems to work.

The problem is that Photobucket has shot themselves in the foot- actually, it's more like shot themselves in the chest and given themselves a sucking chest wound. At this point, virtually no one if going to pay their ransom fee, and both users and advertisers are going to be abandoning them like rats off a sinking ship.

Before too long, I strongly suspect that PB will start having trouble paying their hosting bills, and shortly after that, very likely close down for good. At that point, any photo that you might have been able to still see with the multiple-refresh trick, will be gone forever.

And there's plenty of articles out there whose authors have moved on, or even passed away, and are no longer in any position to repost the photos somewhere else.

And even if they ARE still around, there's a ton of articles the author might not want to go back through a long build thread and reedit hundreds of photo links. Here's an example: A 37 page (so far) shot-by-shot build of a custom, modern take of the "Bullitt" '69 Dodge Charger. I've been following it for a while, and I love the guy's craftsmanship and attention to detail.

But PB cut off his account, and now some 200+ photos of the build so far are just gone. He's continuing posting with a new host, but it looks very much like he's not going to bother going back to reupload those hundreds of previous photos.

On another board for webcomics, a regular poster over the years had put up sort of "fan edits" of various comics, rearranging panels and changing the dialogue, to make a serious comic funny, or a funny comic absurd.

Unfortunately, he passed away several years ago, and all those comics were on Photobucket. They can still be accessed using the multiple-refresh trick for now- which is a pain every time you want to read one of the comics- but when PB goes completely away, they'll be lost forever.

Fortunately, I've self-hosted my own photos pretty much since day one- there's 15-year-old threads out there that still have my pictures in them.

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Old 07-23-2017, 07:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Fortunately, I've self-hosted my own photos pretty much since day one- there's 15-year-old threads out there that still have my pictures in them.

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Just the other day I was trying to describe how great Al Mollick was.
The ONLY pictures I could find were those on your website... probably 15 years old by now. Thats pretty amazing.

For the photobucket people, I'd bet lots of people are going to find out how easy it is to setup your own server. All you need is a connection to the internet.

Just download Apache (free), configure some settings, and thats it. You can host your own photos, and be your own website. There are little details, but as for hosting pictures, and static websites, thats all you need.

I did that for 20 years, until a few years ago when the computer died.... and I never bothered to fix it. I don't work in computer science anymore, so not much demand. But I'd write up a guide if someone is really interested.
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Old 07-23-2017, 09:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It's why I really wish people would just use the native photo upload on the site. As long as the site's there the photos stay there.
Photo sharing sites change TOS's all the time, people change or cancel accounts on stuff like google and Microsoft live drive.
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Old 07-23-2017, 09:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I believe photobucket wanted to clear out their servers and have users pay for it. I used photobucket years ago but they changed their layout and how you posted to other sites and I jumped ship. People are already jumping ship in droves.
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Photobucket tried the ransom ware route - Overcharging far too much to get personal photos with no warning.
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Old 07-23-2017, 06:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Just the other day I was trying to describe how great Al Mollick was.
The ONLY pictures I could find were those on your website... probably 15 years old by now. Thats pretty amazing.
-More than that. Pornopaintball.com was dead and gone by probably 2000. The "AutoBlastEmFlatter" photo dates back to at least '99, maybe late winter of '98. The famous shots of his "electrococker" breakdown, I shot in probably 2001, at a height of the Gabriel/Glacier/Gladiator board trend.

I rezzed up docsmachine.com in early '99, and virtually every public photo I've ever put up, is still there.

Over 5,000 by this point.

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-More than that. Pornopaintball.com was dead and gone by probably 2000. The "AutoBlastEmFlatter" photo dates back to at least '99, maybe late winter of '98. The famous shots of his "electrococker" breakdown, I shot in probably 2001, at a height of the Gabriel/Glacier/Gladiator board trend.

I rezzed up docsmachine.com in early '99, and virtually every public photo I've ever put up, is still there.

Over 5,000 by this point.

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Old 07-24-2017, 12:25 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Was that the gun with dental floss in it?
-It was indeed.

Whatever we might think about guys like Punisher or NX55, Al was way worse- more entertaining, true, but I'd bet he ran off with more parts, guns and deposit money than any of them (or several of the smaller ones combined) and I honestly can't recall a single functional mod anyone ever received in return.

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