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Victor 1 5.26%
Xtra 3 15.79%
Fenix 5 26.32%
Other 10 52.63%
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Old 07-09-2016, 01:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Looking for a new Spyder

Hello everyone,

I've been playing a bit (sole marker I have and played for a year) with my Hammer 7, but lately I have been having a few leaks that I will eventually fix.

Meanwhile, I'm looking for a backup/main marker.

So my current situation:
I play more or less once a week, i shoot about 100 balls per week (i play magfed with 1 mag and 10rnd tubes).
I'm better than the typical first timer, but I get smooked by speedballers on the local recball field. I just lack the bps with my arms. I use a fiber x barrel (which I love), spyder threaded.

So I'm looking for the following for my next marker:
Semi (or higher firing rate), hopper fed, cheap.

I'm thinkg of taking a Victor, putting my Fiber X barrel, a 13/3000 tank and a Halo Too hopper.

Would the Xtra/Fenix be better guns?

Any suggestions?

Thanks for your input!
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't know anything about your play style but figured I'd share an idea.

With a different vertical air adapter you could run a 13/3k, as it is now, a tank with an on/off will work but I get 30 useable shots from a 12 gram and use the tubes I already use. Works well and is fun, I just need to get used to semi auto.
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Old 07-10-2016, 02:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Any will work if you just want a semi auto for rec ball.
I really like the MR1 (mr100) as it's rugged and can take abuse in the woods for a simple semi.

Your barrel with a good bore fit well make any choice you make shoot well.
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Old 07-11-2016, 12:47 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't know anything about your play style but figured I'd share an idea.

With a different vertical air adapter you could run a 13/3k, as it is now, a tank with an on/off will work but I get 30 useable shots from a 12 gram and use the tubes I already use. Works well and is fun, I just need to get used to semi auto.
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I really like the vertical air tank.
If I go down that route, is there any difference between the Victor and the Xtra?
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Old 07-11-2016, 01:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I really like the vertical air tank.
If I go down that route, is there any difference between the Victor and the Xtra?
The Xtra gets a metal grip frame and a foregrip, the Fenix gets an e-frame and break-beam eyes. Beyond that they are the same.

The biggest setback I can see in all of this is your reload times. Getting 9-10 shots then having to reload a single mag in a firefight has got to be a huge pain. Have you tried running a small (50 round) hopper on the H7? An increase in capacity leads to being able to maintain a consistent ROF without having to increase actual ROF.
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Old 07-11-2016, 12:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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If you like the H7 Id also suggest trying out a little hopper first.
Blow backs shoot a lot differently than nelson closed bolts.

If you want to go the 12 gram route on a spyder you need to make sure it has standard ASA threading on the vertical connection. Most do not and need a new front block or adapter. They all take an HPA bottle fine, its just the in-line/vertical thats threaded differently.
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The Xtra gets a metal grip frame and a foregrip, the Fenix gets an e-frame and break-beam eyes. Beyond that they are the same.

The biggest setback I can see in all of this is your reload times. Getting 9-10 shots then having to reload a single mag in a firefight has got to be a huge pain. Have you tried running a small (50 round) hopper on the H7? An increase in capacity leads to being able to maintain a consistent ROF without having to increase actual ROF.
I have a bad tendency to chop when I use my 50rnds gravity fed hopper. Perhaps an electric hopper might help me. The balls seemed to lack the down pressure to seat properly and when I would close, it would chop.


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If you like the H7 Id also suggest trying out a little hopper first.
Blow backs shoot a lot differently than nelson closed bolts.

If you want to go the 12 gram route on a spyder you need to make sure it has standard ASA threading on the vertical connection. Most do not and need a new front block or adapter. They all take an HPA bottle fine, its just the in-line/vertical thats threaded differently.
I am aware of the adapter requirement. I am looking at the latest models (2012) and I wouldn't mind putting an adapter. I assume none of the newer models have the right threads.
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Old 07-11-2016, 01:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I have a spyder amg lcd with eyes and a dye barrel plus another as a parts gun. I also have the owerns manual and some parts for them. As well as the charger and I think a spare battery. The only issue I think they have is the burst disk in the asa is blown on both. But as is I would do $40 + actual shipping, it will be heavy....

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I have a spyder amg lcd with eyes and a dye barrel plus another as a parts gun. I also have the owerns manual and some parts for them. As well as the charger and I think a spare battery. The only issue I think they have is the burst disk in the asa is blown on both. But as is I would do $40 + actual shipping, it will be heavy....

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It will seem even heavier if shipped to Canada!


Thank you for the offer but I do not want to mess with cross border orders especially since Canada Post is about to strike...
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Right Canada that would be fun right now. Good luck with the search.
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