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Old 11-24-2018, 10:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Spyder RAT valve?

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I've come across what I believe is a spyder RAT valve. Anyone have info on these? Experience with them? Advice on whether it's superior to a magnaport?



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Old 11-24-2018, 11:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't have any experience with that particular valve, but when it comes to consistency, most of the valves using the single port are better than the inside out configuration of the Magnaport.

I have absolute terrible luck with Magnaport valves in the past, and resorting to drilling stock Spyder valves in most cases where I had previously used the Magnaport.

So, I would say yes, that RAT valve is probably better than the Magnaport valve, because I value consistency.
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Old 11-25-2018, 08:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Oh man, it's been a lot of years. So I don't recall the RAT valve in my Spyder communities back in the early 2000s. It almost looks more like an autococker valve than a Spyder one since it's so long. You sure it's for a Spyder?

I can tell you that the Magnaport valves were considered the low to middle-of-the-road valves. They weren't bad, but there were better options. The Magnaports were the value lp valves. They gave you the opportunity to tune your Spyder to shoot at lower input pressures, but it wasn't anything to write home about. The high-end valves were the AKA Tornado Valve (of course) and the Rocket Valve (Maddman I think?).

Based on those photos, I like the valve pin design, and the valve looks very high-flow capable, especially the hammer return outlet, which is essential for lp operation. I think it would allow you to achieve lower pressures than the Magnaport.
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Old 11-26-2018, 10:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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When the RAT valve was mentioned originally, I also thought about the Autococker valve of the same name.

The flats on the valve stem are for blowback operation, though, so it's probably a Spyder valve. I didn't know SP made a RAT valve for Spyders until I searched for it specifically due to this thread.

I do think that the RAT valve will probably be easier to tune than a Magnaport valve.
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Old 12-01-2018, 11:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I cannot comment beyond to say that every RAT valve I ever ran across for an autococker was either blue, or red.

Based on one of the posts above I see someone say they searched and found info specific to a Spyder RAT, but I was unable to find anything, including a picture of one indicating it's existence.
DavidBoren, can you post that link?

I always thought highly of Shocktech internal products where it came to making a cocker run well.

Something that is confuddling me about this valve....Spyder valves were commonly drilled all the way through to accommodate the retainer screw that would 'fill" the other side. Does this one still have a divot for such and a special shortened retainer?
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Old 12-02-2018, 06:02 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I've seen RAT valves in green and purple as well. But technically speaking, only the RAT 3:16 valves were aluminum and could be anodized. Earlier versions were steel, but only the RAT II had the plastic face seal.

Perhaps it's an ANS valve? Their cocker valve was a RAT 3:16 knockoff, it's possible they made a Spyder version.
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Kinda looks like an aka tornado valve they used to make them for spiders
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Old 12-02-2018, 09:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I had the same thought about an ANS knockoff...
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Kinda looks like an aka tornado valve they used to make them for spiders
AKA was very specific looking and had a much different cup seal setup. It would be pretty obvious. This cup seal "seems" like Shocktech...but I can't find anything to back that up.
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Old 12-09-2018, 09:10 PM   #10 (permalink)
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OP, did this come out of a Spyder, or out of a clone?
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