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Old 05-24-2017, 10:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I've got some phantoms from the late 80s. Hard to mess up. Pump is a fun challenge, too. In my humble opinion, it's more enjoyable to have the challenge in play vs at the workbench/online store/youtube/forum looking for the solution to a quirk.

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There is a local guy selling a phantom for $175. Seems a tad too high but I have no idea! Pump sounds awesome though!

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Old 05-24-2017, 10:53 PM   #12 (permalink)
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There is a local guy selling a phantom for $175. Seems a tad too high but I have no idea! Pump sounds awesome though! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...19d32b3a69.jpg

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I'll be honest and say that I want to give every phantom a good home. That 12 gram changer is very interesting, btw. Is he on MCB?
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I'll be honest and say that I want to give every phantom a good home. That 12 gram changer is very interesting, btw. Is he on MCB?
I have no idea, he is a very knowledgeable guy when I emailed him. Shall I ask? I especially liked the patch he has it it! Would that marker be worth it at its current price and for a first marker? I would only need to pick up a loader and 12g and then I would be set. I've never researched a marker with like a side feed so I would assume I would need an elbow of some sorts?

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I think I should heed your warning. I don't want to be over my head. If I was looking for a automag, would I be looking at the classic? I want something that I can upgrade and make my own over the years. I see the classics with a right hand and left hand feed. I'm left eye dominate and shoot left handed if that matters to which feed I choose. Thank you for your time and your help!!

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Right feed for a southpaw seems perfect. Will give you a clear sight line down the barrel and hide your hopper behind cover along with the rest of you. I've never understood why right feed became the standard for a right handed world. A classic valve with a level 7 bolt is a good base. Everything else is up to you. Ebay generally has a half dozen classic mags for sale at any given time that can be had for $100-125.
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I have a patch just like that

My personal preference is stock class pump, so I'd prefer a breech/body that would more easily allow for that. If you're into the idea of a pump with a tank and hopper, it's not a bad place to start.
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Right feed for a southpaw seems perfect. Will give you a clear sight line down the barrel and hide your hopper behind cover along with the rest of you. I've never understood why right feed became the standard for a right handed world. A classic valve with a level 7 bolt is a good base. Everything else is up to you. Ebay generally has a half dozen classic mags for sale at any given time that can be had for $100-125.
So the classics and can fully made into whatever I would like? I just want a good base that I can go all out if I get hooked

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I have a patch just like that

My personal preference is stock class pump, so I'd prefer a breech/body that would more easily allow for that. If you're into the idea of a pump with a tank and hopper, it's not a bad place to start.
I would rather have a vert feed just so I don't have to deal with an elbow, but I don't see those around. :/

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Old 05-24-2017, 11:04 PM   #18 (permalink)
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The modern stock class breeches allow for a feedneck adapter to replace the 10 round tube feed. It's one screw off, one screw on.
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The modern stock class breeches allow for a feedneck adapter to replace the 10 round tube feed. It's one screw off, one screw on.
Interesting!

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Old 05-24-2017, 11:09 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I don't want anyone to think that I'm trying to start a phantom vs any other maker debate. I just know what I like, and that I didn't have any trouble learning to update/upgrade/fix my phantom. Whichever way you go, MCB is the place to get the answers you need.
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