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Old 06-03-2017, 10:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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ccm s5 vs pre2k

What would be the difference between a ccm s5 vs a pre2k autococker with ccm internals and ccm pump kit? I really like the simple body design of the ccm s5 and I am wondering what the differences would be. Would the ccm s5 be that much better than a pre2k body with all ccm parts?
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Old 06-03-2017, 10:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Weight and pump stroke... the pre2k would likely need different springing than the S5.
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98, 99 or Pre2k simply means an autococker that was designed and built before the year 2000, there were many styles from 1998-2000. Many of the popular Pre2K autococker bodies were actually modified internally so that the air chambers holds more air, which drops the operating pressure. You will see a brass fitting inserted in the lower chamber in this case which keeps the Pre2k threaded front block.

Before 1997, autocockers had different quirks too, like not being drilled from the top to adjust the timing lug.

The CCM Series 5 was produced I believe between 2003-2005, so it is a "2k" bodied cocker, it is full length.

In your research you will find there are many different Body lengths such as Mini, Merlin, Mid Block, Half Block, Full Body (like the CCM S5), Karnivor

If you are looking to build a pump, find your favorite body style and go from there, most guns with CCM pump kits, lower internals and springs will feel about the same : )
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The only meaningful difference is the size of the front block screw and with that the size of the air chamber.

With equally good valves and other components either should feel as smooth as the other barring any physical defects in either.

The air chamber size should probably not have an impact but if it does it is easy to modify to accept 2k front block screws..that's what I would suggest anyways to make pump kits easier to source.
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What would be the difference between a ccm s5 vs a pre2k autococker with ccm internals and ccm pump kit? I really like the simple body design of the ccm s5 and I am wondering what the differences would be. Would the ccm s5 be that much better than a pre2k body with all ccm parts?
Probably #1 thing is the weight difference I would imagine -- S5 I imagine is going to be lighter unless someone corrects me
And I've heard stories about a non-CCM gun with CCM internals not "feeling as good" as an already shop-tuned CCM body gun, but then they couldn't explain what the difference was
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I use janky old guns with "bad" pump strokes, and one only notices the pump stroke off the field. Spending 600 bucks on a CCM vs 300 or less on anything else is only worth it when you're sitting on the couch pumping the action in slow motion trying to find imperfections. CCM guns are super pretty though. Pretty is good.
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Probably #1 thing is the weight difference I would imagine -- S5 I imagine is going to be lighter unless someone corrects me
And I've heard stories about a non-CCM gun with CCM internals not "feeling as good" as an already shop-tuned CCM body gun, but then they couldn't explain what the difference was
I might put the price difference as the real number 1. The s5 will be light but I dont think it will be too noticeable lighter.
Another thing is an s5 will most likely be vert feed and an older cocker will probably be right feed.
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