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|01-28-2019, 01:15 PM||#14 (permalink)|
Join Date: Oct 2007
They're sweet guns... Super expensive when new, $250 or more, but cocker threads and no plastic anywhere but the valve adjustment.
I keep saying I'll use mine more, but I have to swap my valve body with my project Diadem, so it stays in a bin.
|01-29-2019, 11:22 PM||#15 (permalink)|
Heart of Texas
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Central texas
Stbb’s are great. I’m almost finished with my smart parts ‘super starter kit’ spyder.
I love joker aces too, Westwood style milling and very nice anodizing.
Another blowback that doesn’t get enough respect is the early piranha ext’s. Black base with nice blue splash, very well done.
Need money? I buy old eclipse splash stuff..
|01-30-2019, 12:33 AM||#16 (permalink)|
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Portland, OR
It is all about who made them, and what you are expecting from them.
ICD vertical valve blowbacks were, and still are, exceptional markers.
PMI markers, in general, seem to be quite underrated. The Piranha line was better than every Spyder counterpart of its time. And the Evil Omen (at least the 2.0) was the epitome of stacked tube blowback design.
The Spyder VS3 balance valve is another glorious leap in blowback evolution, too bad the rest of the marker kind of sucked (stupid barrel-limiting body design, rocking trigger frame, ugly marker).
The WGP RG is another unsung hero in the blowback world... it had a 90* grip frame, cocker threaded barrel, WGP regulator.
In the late 90's/<2004, Rebels and many of the Brass Eagle/Viewloader/JT stacked tube blowback markers were made with questionable quality control tolerances. A lot of the cheaper Spyders suffered from this as well.
Blowbacks are for people willing to build what they are looking for, rather than buying it that way to start... "built, not bought" (shadetree mechanic/hotrod slang). If you tinker, then you get out what you put in.
Inherent to their design, recoil is imminent. You are relying on blowback gases to push the heavy striker backwards. All of this produces more "kick" than anything not using a heavy striker propelled backwards by the same pressurized air that shoots the ball. Compared to spoolies and spacegun poppets, blowbacks handle like neanderthal tools. If you aren't expecting that, it can be difficult to adjust to.
For a diehard backup marker that will never let you down, for beginners that can't afford airsmith tech for simple fixes, for people who still tinker... blowbacks are wonderful. They are the cam-in-block V8 of the paintball world. Too simple to quit working, too good to let die.
The design is literally idiot-simple. The valve nothing more than a plug of material with two perpendicular bores running through it. It is amazingly simple to modify to your own purposes. Want more flow, drill bigger holes. Change springs as necessary, they are available. Add a regulator, if desired. Literally an open canvas for a creator.
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Last edited by DavidBoren; 01-30-2019 at 01:12 AM.
|01-31-2019, 02:24 PM||#17 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2010
Weren't Intimidators essentially STBB's? Spimmies?
|01-31-2019, 10:58 PM||#20 (permalink)|
Join Date: Dec 2015
I run it as a pistol or as a limited paint / compact gun.
Last edited by apamburn; 01-31-2019 at 11:05 PM.
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