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Old 03-11-2011, 08:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I know unsanctioned or "private" motocross tracks have a waiver you sign to protect them against law suits stating simply if you screw yourself up theyre not responsible. And to avoid tax they ask for a $10-$20 "donation" (depending on the track) The "donation" Is tax free and if questioned by the man, The "donation" is for upkeep of the track.
I dont know if this could be applied to a paintball field but...
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When running an outlaw field, you will still have injury liability that you are responsible for when/if someone gets hurt on your field. A waiver is not necessarily legally binding in all states, so even if you have visitors to your field sign one, if they get injured, you may still be liable. As Thumper stated "Be very careful about who you invite". As far as money... if money exchanges hands, I can guarantee that you will have to have the IRS involved in some way. Best bet for running a private/outlaw field... let everyone bring what they need... Don't sell anything to them, even if it's at cost. Check out the local "bartering" laws in your area. Sometimes you can trade for goods/services, and perhaps you can get away with trading a day of paintball on your facility in exchange for CO2/Compressed air, or a player may be able to trade marker repair for a bag of paint, etc. Either way, I'd look into it before someone lets the taxman know.
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When running an outlaw field, you will still have injury liability that you are responsible for when/if someone gets hurt on your field.
This is true, only if the field is private property.
Such is not the case where games are held on public property. The latter being TRUE Renegade style.
The others are, or should be considered private.
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I know unsanctioned or "private" motocross tracks have a waiver you sign to protect them against law suits stating simply if you screw yourself up theyre not responsible. And to avoid tax they ask for a $10-$20 "donation" (depending on the track) The "donation" Is tax free and if questioned by the man, The "donation" is for upkeep of the track.
I dont know if this could be applied to a paintball field but...
Have either of these successfully survived a challenge in court? I would be willing to bet not
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And to avoid tax they ask for a $10-$20 "donation" (depending on the track) The "donation" Is tax free and if questioned by the man, The "donation" is for upkeep of the track.
If it were that easy, everyone providing a service would be working for "donations" instead of income.

"Sure I'll paint your front porch. No I won't charge you anything. But you will have to make a $150 donation for the use of my tools, gas and maintenace for my van, and laundering of my work clothes."
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If it were that easy, everyone providing a service would be working for "donations" instead of income.

"Sure I'll paint your front porch. No I won't charge you anything. But you will have to make a $150 donation for the use of my tools, gas and maintenace for my van, and laundering of my work clothes."
Ya know, I already feel like I work for free and my boss just donates to my "feed the children" fund... Maybe I can turn this around and make it work for me...

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If it were that easy, everyone providing a service would be working for "donations" instead of income.

"Sure I'll paint your front porch. No I won't charge you anything. But you will have to make a $150 donation for the use of my tools, gas and maintenace for my van, and laundering of my work clothes."
Its what most "waivers" do. The people signing and participate never seek legal advice because they beleive the waiver means something. Only those who are willing to run off to a lawer find out otherwise. The "donation" side of it is going to blow up someday when someone else writes off said "donation" and the people taking it are not set up as a charity / non-profit / whatever.
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