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Old 01-17-2018, 01:20 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I remember getting calling bt/empire and getting customer service that rivaled Tippmann. Of course that was before pbsolutions took it over so this whole thing has a decidedly bad effect on paintball. I have two customers with axes that don’t work (one is brand new) and the support I’m getting trying to fix these things isn’t cutting it.
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Old 01-17-2018, 01:30 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Crap, they own empire too? I suppose had I thought about it, I would have figured it out... I just kept confusing Gi and Gog, forgot KEE was involved.

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Old 01-17-2018, 03:31 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Is it ok if I think the lawsuit is BS but also believe that companies are allowed to try to protect their patents?


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Old 01-17-2018, 03:51 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Is it ok if I think the lawsuit is BS but also believe that companies are allowed to try to protect their patents?


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But buying up old patents and intellectual properties from defunct businesses, repatenting small variations of old tech and suing anyone smaller than your company to achieve business domination? They aren't trying to win anything. Just force competing companies to spend a much higher percentage of their total gross fund on litigation. They are spending their dollars in the court room gain a competitive edge rather than spending on r&d, customer service, advertising, sponsorships, or anything that would advance the sport.

Aren't they are suing Virtue over tech that was pioneered by Viewloader in 1992?

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But buying up old patents and intellectual properties from defunct businesses, repatenting small variations of old tech and suing anyone smaller than your company to achieve business domination? They aren't trying to win anything. Just force competing companies to spend a much higher percentage of their total gross fund on litigation. They are spending their dollars in the court room gain a competitive edge rather than spending on r&d, customer service, advertising, sponsorships, or anything that would advance the sport.

Aren't they are suing Virtue over tech that was pioneered by Viewloader in 1992?
Yeah, i don't like this at all. Besides - ultimately they want money right? Instead of screwing their competitors to gain a larger share of the current paintball market, they should be spending their time and money improving and growing the sport. What they are doing here with these lawsuits is not creating growth, and won't be sustainable. If the sport grows, there will be more money to go around.
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Old 01-17-2018, 04:07 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I think GI is a distributor for Planet.


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Old 01-17-2018, 04:51 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 01-17-2018, 04:58 PM   #28 (permalink)
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We ought to boycott them. This is bull****. Vote with your wallet.
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I'm on-board. All I need is a list of the two or three companies the Gardners haven't tainted. Valken and...?
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Field One and Macdev?

Wait, what about Dye?
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