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Old 01-28-2018, 08:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Awesome. GMEK, this hoseless mech highend ion, shocktech gunfighter frame. GREAT time for mech Paintball.

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What are they supposed to do? Make more pretty body kits no one can afford? They already make a great mech gun. Short of releasing a factory pneumatic trigger setup, which wouldn't be allowed in a tourney, they have no other venue to explore.
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I keep seeing all of these and going ok how do they improve in any way on the GoG eNMEy design? Honestly for a mech that's light and fast the only thing to improve on the GoG is the efficiency and even that is a moot point with all day air at most fields. I guess I just don't see any need to pay probably 3-5 times the price for the same platform. pneu activated spool valve. Only thing I wish GoG would do is make a cocker threaded breach but meh impulse/ion is common enough that you can find amazing barrels already I guess.
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What are they supposed to do? Make more pretty body kits no one can afford? They already make a great mech gun. Short of releasing a factory pneumatic trigger setup, which wouldn't be allowed in a tourney, they have no other venue to explore.
There are many possibilities.

1) plug the current air in hole in the valve, create a spacer that goes in between the valve chamber and the regulator half that allows air to get into the valve from a below point like a modern day spool gun.

2) this would allow hose less no macro line designs, and would allow all valves on the market to still be used.

3) using GRN create a a clam shell vert feed, super light, macro less, bad *** space gun body to slap the old new modded valve in. Then create a clam shell tactical mag fed swat team body to slap the old new modded valve in.

4) sell drop in modular trigger sets, ULE, RT, Phenu ect. For them.

5) Proffit and smile as a new generation of maggots rises out of the ancient mud

There is a TON of life left in the automag, just got a try to see outside of 1996.

Despite all these new mech guns hitting the market none of them have any way to prevent ball chopping except the automag.
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Old 01-28-2018, 11:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
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pneumatic trigger setup, which wouldn't be allowed in a tourney
Are you sure about that? I was under the impression that pneumatic triggers were mech tourney legal. After all the GMEK trigger is technically a pneumatic trigger, and I'm sure this new SP trigger is one too. Maybe you're thinking of response triggers, which aren't mech tourney legal.
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Old 01-29-2018, 12:53 AM   #15 (permalink)
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If this shoots as good as the TFG mech Ions I have it'll be a really nice shooter
I'm a lifelong Mag fan and mine still gets alot of field time but for weight,sound and lightness of trigger the (mech) Ion has it beat
I'll also note if you don't use a QEV on Ions they're inherently anti chop similar to the Level 10
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I keep seeing all of these and going ok how do they improve in any way on the GoG eNMEy design? Honestly for a mech that's light and fast the only thing to improve on the GoG is the efficiency and even that is a moot point with all day air at most fields. I guess I just don't see any need to pay probably 3-5 times the price for the same platform. pneu activated spool valve. Only thing I wish GoG would do is make a cocker threaded breach but meh impulse/ion is common enough that you can find amazing barrels already I guess.
lol

There are a plethora of ways an RSX would be an improvement over an eNMEy. The full metal construction is an obvious one. The RSX bolt weighs a lot less than an eNMEy bolt, so it will be smoother and have better efficiency. And it has cocker threads.

Not to mention better ergos, hoseless design, etc etc...
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Old 01-29-2018, 07:02 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Are you sure about that? I was under the impression that pneumatic triggers were mech tourney legal. After all the GMEK trigger is technically a pneumatic trigger, and I'm sure this new SP trigger is one too. Maybe you're thinking of response triggers, which aren't mech tourney legal.
That could be - I was pretty sure they also covered pneumags which, to me, are much different that the Gmek setup.

EDIT: Found the wording on the AGD Facebook page:

"Shall not increase or decrease the force required to pull or hold the trigger to or at any position without the use of tools (“reactive trigger”, “pneumatic trigger assists”).

So no, looks like they're not allowed.
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There are many possibilities.

1) plug the current air in hole in the valve, create a spacer that goes in between the valve chamber and the regulator half that allows air to get into the valve from a below point like a modern day spool gun.

2) this would allow hose less no macro line designs, and would allow all valves on the market to still be used.

3) using GRN create a a clam shell vert feed, super light, macro less, bad *** space gun body to slap the old new modded valve in. Then create a clam shell tactical mag fed swat team body to slap the old new modded valve in.

4) sell drop in modular trigger sets, ULE, RT, Phenu ect. For them.

5) Proffit and smile as a new generation of maggots rises out of the ancient mud

There is a TON of life left in the automag, just got a try to see outside of 1996.

Despite all these new mech guns hitting the market none of them have any way to prevent ball chopping except the automag.

So total redesign of their product line... vs. the other companies releasing a drop-in grip frame.

I don't see that happening.

Nummech has their new frame, virtually macroless, and I don't see too many people on here grabbing them up. Same price point as a Gmek, and if I was in the market for a Mag and had the cash, I'd be using their frame in a build, especially with the future pneumag upgrade option built into the frame.
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lol

There are a plethora of ways an RSX would be an improvement over an eNMEy. The full metal construction is an obvious one. The RSX bolt weighs a lot less than an eNMEy bolt, so it will be smoother and have better efficiency. And it has cocker threads.

Not to mention better ergos, hoseless design, etc etc...
Is that worth the significant price premium however? Answer is no

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There are a plethora of ways an RSX would be an improvement over an eNMEy. The full metal construction is an obvious one. The RSX bolt weighs a lot less than an eNMEy bolt, so it will be smoother and have better efficiency. And it has cocker threads.

Not to mention better ergos, hoseless design, etc etc...
I didn't know that. #learning
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