Bob Long Closer EXP
ANS has a special on these guns right now. Any opinions on the Closer EXP?
very little maintenance
use only dow55
you will need a pressure tester
recommended upgrade: barrel, update the board and supercharged engine
It comes with something called a Proficiency valve. Is that different from the "supercharged engine" ?
If the pressure tester is absolutely necessary, why doesn't it come with one?
profficiancy engine is the previous edition of the supercharged engine. Its not necissary to get it supercharged, but the gun will be more consistant and smoother. Its essentially the engine of the victory retrofitted on older marqs
pressure tester sadly is kinda necissary. With the way marqs are set up (probably preaching to the choir here but here it is again) if the pressures are off, you get massive leaks. The victorys come with a pressure tester, older marqs dont, since they aren't technically made anymore
the board will be updated if you buy it nib, depending on how long its been sitting on the shelves.
Also, the trigger is a double claw. Some like it, I myself dont
Would I really notice the difference between the "proficiency engine" and the "supercharged" engine?
that I cant tell ya. All I know is I had a gen1 vic (proficiancy engine), and it shot smoother than my egos (cept my 10), and had so much more efficiancy. On my ego, I could get about 10-11 pods on my 68, my vic could get about 15 on the same tank
supposedly, you could get upwards of 17 pods on a full 68 fill with a supercharged engine (almost a case)
What does " shooting smoothly" mean, exactly? Less vibration?
I think shooting "smoothly" refers to the kick of the gun. I shot a closer w/ the proficiency engine along side my stock Vice. There was a major difference in the kick of the guns. The Closer basically did not move at all when being shot. If I could afford one and/or had the need for one I'd pick up a closer.
BTY the ANS price is still high, you can pick up a used Closer w/ the PE for around the $500 mark IIRC.
I know I could spend less money buying used, but I don't want a used gun that could end up having problems. If I'm spending that kind of money for a "tournament" gun, I'm going to buy brand new and under warranty.
The Marq series guns are heavier, so I would think that explains the reduced "kick" compared to the lighter Vice.
Indeed the weight is a factor. The inline poppit design used in the Marq series has alot to do w/ it too. There is no ram per-se (not sure how to spell that) in the Marq series so that makes a difference too.
Also, I completly understand the desire for a new gun. I purchased my Vice new. It was a dream marker.
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