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PistolRogue 07-14-2011 01:59 PM

Pirate DSG- Work in Progress
 
Alright, got bored waiting for the wooden pistol grip (which I may not even wind up receiving as some shennanigans are already starting up with the seller), so I decided to finally get around to cutting up my OEM Mossberg furniture set that I had picked up off of Ebay some months ago...

So here's pretty much what I started with:

https://i47.tinypic.com/2w7n20z.jpg

And after a couple of quick cuts followed by hours of sanding and dremeling....

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...PirateDSG2.jpg
Unfortunately the only way I could get any detail with my crappy camera was to use the flash, which sort of washed out the black.

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...PirateDSG4.jpg
The foregrip was shortened by about an inch on each end to come very close to standard DSG pump length. I didn't want to destroy the checkering so I just did a quick light sanding to prep it for stain. Hope it works...

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4.../PirateDSG.jpg
The grip was trickier. Once I cut off the stock, unfortunately the only way to round it off to a usable shape was to take off some of the checkering, which ruined the nice border groove. So I had to use the engraving attachment on the dremel to go back around and redo it to the new contour. It looks a little funky now but I'm confident when it's stained it will fill in nicely and be almost indistinguishable from factory (except for the groove being a bit wider). And for the record, no, the grip isn't really comfortable like this, but it DOES look damn cool :D. If you choke up on it a bit it's not too bad though.

Keep in mind, this isn't at all finished yet. I need to stain and seal the wood, then butcher the ever-loving crap out of the stock pump handle so that it will act as a sleeve inside the Mossberg foregrip. It will then simply be glued on with either epoxy or Gorilla Glue or something of that ilk. I'll also need to knock a bit off of the right side of it to work with the Gen 3 feed's retractable pusher.

Just for fun- a slightly modified pic to show what it would look like with the planned 10" barrel and new short Gen 3 feed system. I present to you two fists full of badass:

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...DSGconcept.jpg



UPDATE!!! 8/14/2011

Ok, crappy weather led to my early return from the beaches of Wildwood, so I took a couple of pics to show what's been done since my first post. I WILL have more (and better, hopefully) pics shortly but the battery on the camera went dead right as I was about to snap some shots with the short feed and a 10" barrel installed.

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00955.jpg
Wooden pump is ON! It actually works right now although I haven't glued the wood to the delrin. Still have some cuts to make to both the wood and delrin to clear the Gen 3 feed's slot and retractor before I can do that though.

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00958.jpg
Apologies for the horrid lighting situation in my apartment. It's monsoon season so there's not much daylight coming from the windows to help me out. This shows the passenger side and a line marked on the pump where I have to cut it to clear the feed.


https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00960.jpg
I was doing my best to NOT cut into the checkering, but unfortunately, the only way to get the short feed to fit was to get the pump handle back as far as possible onto the original handle. That meant having to notch in for the bottom pump arm... The cut still needs to finish sanding and such but I ran out of time.

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00961.jpg
Closer shot of the area that needs to be trimmed to clear the feed.

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00962.jpg
Hacked-up delrin pump installed into the Mossberg pump.

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00963.jpg
Some of the clearancing I had to do to get the hacked pump to fit. It might not look like a lot but this was some very time consuming trial and error. PITA I say...

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00964.jpg
Another detail shot of the clearancing...

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00965.jpg
This is what you have to make the pump handle look like to fit inside the pump. Originally I was going to leave the part the pump arms attach to untouched and let the wood stick off the front a bit, for simplicity's sake, but sure enough that didn't work with the short feed system, so I had to butcher it even further. Also had to mill down a bit of the upper arm and re-sink the holes for the cone-head screws to get them flush.

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00966.jpg
If I hadn't milled the arm down, I'd have been cutting it way too close and making the wood pump way too thin in that spot for comfort. Thankfully the raw milled portion is hidden by the pump handle when it's installed so no exposed aluminum!

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00967.jpg
This is a really good one to demonstrate just how much had to be cut off even the back end of the pump. The lower arm doesn't have a notch to sit in at all anymore, it's just held on by the two screws.

Well that's it for now, I'll give the camera battery a while to charge and come back with more pics with the wood handle and the short feed installed with the 10" barrel.


A little later, that same day...

Ok, and the short feed pics:

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00972.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00973.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00976.jpg

UPDATE 8/19/11
Staining and Sealing:

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finishrig2.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finishrig3.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finishrig4.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...gfinishrig.jpg

Finished Product!!!!!

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...Gfinished7.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...Gfinished6.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...Gfinished3.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...Gfinished9.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finished16.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finished15.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finished14.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finished13.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finished11.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finished12.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finished10.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...Gfinished8.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...Gfinished2.jpg

Droop 07-14-2011 02:00 PM

i just got another erection.

slinger 07-14-2011 03:45 PM

Do want

dundadun 07-14-2011 04:05 PM

That will be an awesome Hog's leg.
At first when I read the title, my mind went more towards the blunderbuss idea of pirate :)

PistolRogue 07-14-2011 04:14 PM

Hahaha nah, I was thinking more along the lines of "pirate-stocking" a KP. Maybe it would be more aptly called "DSG: Survivalist Edition" lol...

ECAPNation 07-14-2011 04:17 PM

I so wish I didnt forget to talk to dukie about shortly lower tubes

Crimson Death 07-14-2011 04:27 PM

I can't wait to see it completed Jay.

dundadun 07-14-2011 04:29 PM

Whatever you call it, it may actually give mine a run for it's money :P

moving_target 07-14-2011 04:29 PM

So.... how hard would it be to steal this from you? :D :p

D3adpool 07-14-2011 04:58 PM

Nice swag/mod!. Is this 1 of 2 wood furniture styles? Didn't you also pick up a wooden pistol grip as well?

shadow_772 07-14-2011 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigOldSkool (Post 1917287)
I so wish I didnt forget to talk to dukie about shortly lower tubes

Agree'd :(

Skibbo 07-14-2011 05:18 PM

Man....now I'm going to have to pick up a DSG and do this to it...my wallet hates you :p

PistolRogue 07-15-2011 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3adpool (Post 1917361)
Nice swag/mod!. Is this 1 of 2 wood furniture styles? Didn't you also pick up a wooden pistol grip as well?

I found one on an auction site called Ioffer. The way it's supposed to work is you agree to the listed price or make an offer and if the seller agrees they then invoice you for payment. I got my invoice, but when I followed the link to pay it, it said it was already paid. I tried messaging the seller but got no response. Then I got a shipping notice with a tracking number that doesn't work with any of the major shipping companies (supposedly it's coming from Thailand). So, if it shows up, I guess I get a free grip. But at this point I'm guessing this is going to be a bust.

Like I told Crimson Death on FB earlier, even if it never shows up or I can't track another one down, that wood pump handle will still look sexy as hell with the Hogue if I can't get used to the pirate grip.

Marauder_Pilot 07-15-2011 04:04 AM

After realizing that my Mossberg 500 stock is too long, I think I'm going to blatantly steal your idea. Thanks!:p

Amsterdam 07-15-2011 04:46 PM

when i saw the original furniture i was like "noooo!, why cut that!" but the results so far are stunning *claps*

PistolRogue 07-15-2011 10:16 PM

Well, that pic isn't the actual furniture, just something I googled for an example. These bits were quite a bit rougher and for $40 on Ebay, not something I felt bad about dicing up.

crenom 07-15-2011 11:11 PM

Looks damn sexy!

PistolRogue 08-12-2011 10:14 AM

UPDATE!!! Yes, it's still alive!

Well, the other wood pistol grip turned out to be a wash... If it was intended to be a scam it was the worst one in history... but oh well..

ANYWAY, last night I finally got the new delrin pump lathed down into a sleeve/bushing and fitted into the wood pump. Wound up having to mill the 90 degree pump arm down where the two screws attach but about halfway and then re-counter-sink the holes, then a crapload more sanding and dremeling. What I thought was going to be an easy jaunt took me all damn night at work and it's still not QUITE done. Still have to trim the passenger side for the Gen 3 feed's spring retractor slot and then clearance the front of it a bit for where the slot goes into the 90. After that it's just a finish-sand, stain, and seal away from being finished!

Unfortunately, I won't be able to work on it again until Monday night since I'll be spending the rest of the weekend in Wildwood drunk like a fratboy wannabe...

I could have taken pics... but I figured it was more fun to tease the results :ROTFL:

dm6rocker 08-12-2011 09:33 PM

I have to say man, this is looking uber cool. I have to see this in person. But...something just dawned on me.

This
https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...DSGconcept.jpg

Plus this (or something like it)
https://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k...G/SSPX0951.jpg

...would be, quite possibly the most amazing DSG ever. Keep up the nice work man, I hope I run into ya on the field one of these days.

808raoul 08-12-2011 09:42 PM

OMG that is amazing. Makes me want to get a DSG.

dundadun 08-12-2011 09:49 PM

Most dsg's seem to be left stock, but really they are great platforms to customize

4G010H3R0 08-12-2011 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 808raoul (Post 1959788)
OMG that is amazing. Makes me want to get a DSG.

You mean a regular DSG doesn't make you want a DSG? Tisk tisk..

PistolRogue 08-14-2011 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dm6rocker (Post 1959777)
I have to say man, this is looking uber cool. I have to see this in person. But...something just dawned on me.

This
https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...DSGconcept.jpg

Plus this (or something like it)
https://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k...G/SSPX0951.jpg

...would be, quite possibly the most amazing DSG ever. Keep up the nice work man, I hope I run into ya on the field one of these days.

Meh, no offense to Dun but I'm not sure I'm feeling a lever on the DSG... At least not with the pistol grip choices that are available... Maybe with a stock.. I'm sure he likes it and it's his gun so more power to him. But for me I have a Phantom and a Winchester Model 1892 stock sitting in a box waiting for me to get around to making them into as close a copy of Zoe's Mare's Leg as I can, so that's another project for another time. This was intended to be something quick and easy to keep me busy while I gathered parts for that... Little did I know what I was getting into lol...

dundadun 08-14-2011 02:55 AM

:)
it's hard for me to like stocks :P Which is why I like your dsg the most so far.

Let me know when you do get to your mare's leg, I might have a spare lever loop in the future.

dm6rocker 08-14-2011 03:01 AM

I actually think a lever would go great with your specific choice of grip, Rogue. The way it sits, it looks like it would be so natural with a nice lever on there. I'd imagine it would be a bit more like a KL, and less like a pistol gripped lever. But either way, your creation is gorgeous. I'm anxiously awaiting pictures of the finished product.

I like Dun's lever too. Very unique, but obviously not for everyone.

PistolRogue 08-14-2011 02:43 PM

UPDATE!!! 8/14/2011- Added to the first post as well for those that don't want to keep up through multiple pages...

Ok, crappy weather led to my early return from the beaches of Wildwood, so I took a couple of pics to show what's been done since my first post. I WILL have more (and better, hopefully) pics shortly but the battery on the camera went dead right as I was about to snap some shots with the short feed and a 10" barrel installed.

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00955.jpg
Wooden pump is ON! It actually works right now although I haven't glued the wood to the delrin. Still have some cuts to make to both the wood and delrin to clear the Gen 3 feed's slot and retractor before I can do that though.

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00958.jpg
Apologies for the horrid lighting situation in my apartment. It's monsoon season so there's not much daylight coming from the windows to help me out. This shows the passenger side and a line marked on the pump where I have to cut it to clear the feed.


https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00960.jpg
I was doing my best to NOT cut into the checkering, but unfortunately, the only way to get the short feed to fit was to get the pump handle back as far as possible onto the original handle. That meant having to notch in for the bottom pump arm... The cut still needs to finish sanding and such but I ran out of time.

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00961.jpg
Closer shot of the area that needs to be trimmed to clear the feed.

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00962.jpg
Hacked-up delrin pump installed into the Mossberg pump.

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00963.jpg
Some of the clearancing I had to do to get the hacked pump to fit. It might not look like a lot but this was some very time consuming trial and error. PITA I say...

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00964.jpg
Another detail shot of the clearancing...

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00965.jpg
This is what you have to make the pump handle look like to fit inside the pump. Originally I was going to leave the part the pump arms attach to untouched and let the wood stick off the front a bit, for simplicity's sake, but sure enough that didn't work with the short feed system, so I had to butcher it even further. Also had to mill down a bit of the upper arm and re-sink the holes for the cone-head screws to get them flush.

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00966.jpg
If I hadn't milled the arm down, I'd have been cutting it way too close and making the wood pump way too thin in that spot for comfort. Thankfully the raw milled portion is hidden by the pump handle when it's installed so no exposed aluminum!

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00967.jpg
This is a really good one to demonstrate just how much had to be cut off even the back end of the pump. The lower arm doesn't have a notch to sit in at all anymore, it's just held on by the two screws.

Well that's it for now, I'll give the camera battery a while to charge and come back with more pics with the wood handle and the short feed installed with the 10" barrel.

PistolRogue 08-14-2011 05:38 PM

Ok, and the short feed pics:

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00972.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00973.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...4/DSC00976.jpg

dm6rocker 08-14-2011 05:44 PM

Looks absolutely amazing, Rogue. The shorter feed absolutely makes it.

When I get my hands on another DSG, I may have to beg and plead for you to do some work on it. I just bought a Gen3 short feed and pump, so the gears are already turning.

Skibbo 08-14-2011 05:46 PM

so awesome.
So this has pretty much convinced me to get a dsg, just to do this to it.

russc 08-14-2011 06:43 PM

Awesome. I've got a chopped stock on my DSG as well...the trigger feels more comfortable after removing some of the tang to bring its rest position rearward and adding a forward stop.

https://i.imgur.com/pZfLb.jpg

Marauder_Pilot 08-14-2011 07:11 PM

Also, as a side note: TF2 shotgun, anybody?

https://tf2wiki.net/w/images/thumb/c/...hotgun_IMG.png

PistolRogue 08-14-2011 08:48 PM

Actually MP, it's kind of funny because your sig banner was actually what gave me the initial inspiration for this project...

PistolRogue 08-16-2011 05:19 AM

Well, got the inner sleeve and the wood pump both cut and clearanced for the Gen 3 feed, then sanded everything back down again. Will be stopping by Home Depot on the way home to pick up some Gorilla Glue and choose a stain, and will hopefully manage to get this project all the way done by the end of the week!

Marauder_Pilot 08-16-2011 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PistolRogue (Post 1962093)
Actually MP, it's kind of funny because your sig banner was actually what gave me the initial inspiration for this project...

Seems I just wander around this forum inspiring shotgun love. :p

DoC19K 08-18-2011 10:06 PM

This is inspiring me a bit to shorten up a wooden stock...

This forum is one of the most expensive forums I have ever seen and been on...but its SO WORTH IT! All the cool gizmo's and markers is just stunning.

PistolRogue 08-19-2011 02:29 AM

First coat of clear is drying.... looks effing sexy.... Next coat goes on in a few hours and then I should be good to glue the pump together!

I'd post pics but my work comp doesn't have the appropriate socket for my camera's memory card... So you guys will probably just have to wait until it's done.

PistolRogue 08-19-2011 01:36 PM

BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

UPDATE 8/19/11
Staining and Sealing:

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finishrig2.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finishrig3.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finishrig4.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...gfinishrig.jpg

Finished Product!!!!!

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...Gfinished7.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...Gfinished6.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...Gfinished3.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...Gfinished9.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finished16.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finished15.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finished14.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finished13.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finished11.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finished12.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...finished10.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...Gfinished8.jpg

https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...Gfinished2.jpg

Again, the lighting in my apartment made things difficult-- going to try and figure out some place and time where I can have my buddy take pics of it with his SLR instead of just my crappy point and shoot...

Droop 08-19-2011 01:37 PM

Oh my god

Mouse 08-19-2011 01:37 PM

That is gorgeous. I think I have a new dream gun.

PistolRogue 08-19-2011 01:38 PM

Damn you guys are quick today lol


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