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isiTrue 06-27-2019 02:01 PM

CCM 86 frame grip compatibility
 
Hello everyone,

I'm thinking about having some custom grips made for CCM 86 frames, specifically for the Phantom 86 frame that I have recently acquired.

My question is this: if I have them made for the Phantom 86, would the grips fit all CCM 86 frames, or are there subtle differences between the Cocker and Phantom grips?

I seem to recall reading somewhere that they are not interchangeable, but I'm not certain. Just want to make sure before I go down this path.

Thanks.

ScottyBeans 06-27-2019 03:06 PM

I don't know the answer, but I own both a phantom 86 degree frame and a CCM MBP with an 86 frame, and my curiosity might just get the better of me!

Grendel 06-27-2019 03:38 PM

CCM 86 frames are made to the "spec" of a CZ-75 for the actual grips. So if they make you CZ-75 grips you should be good for any of the CCM 86 Frames.

isiTrue 06-27-2019 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyBeans (Post 3595465)
I don't know the answer, but I own both a phantom 86 degree frame and a CCM MBP with an 86 frame, and my curiosity might just get the better of me!

Do it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grendel (Post 3595472)
CCM 86 frames are made to the "spec" of a CZ-75 for the actual grips. So if they make you CZ-75 grips you should be good for any of the CCM 86 Frames.

Unless I'm mistaken, all of the CZ-75 grips that I've seen are of a different shape than the CCM grips. They wouldn't fit inside the cutout portion of the frame.

Grendel 06-27-2019 07:01 PM

From CCM's store 86* Frame Grips:

https://cdn10.bigcommerce.com/s-r0xo...1410550854.jpg

CZ-75 with stock grip panels:
https://tss-tooeleshootingsu.netdna-...-stainless.jpg

Same

dano_____ 06-27-2019 07:07 PM

It depends on the generation of CCI phantom 86 frame you have. Some of the older ones were slightly different from the newer runs from what I remember.

isiTrue 06-27-2019 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grendel (Post 3595536)

Those CZ grips flare out at the bottom and are longer. Doesn't look like they'd fit inside the CCM frame... unless you mean that they are supposed to go over the cutout section? Not sure how that would work, though. Spacers?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dano_____ (Post 3595542)
It depends on the generation of CCI phantom 86 frame you have. Some of the older ones were slightly different from the newer runs from what I remember.

That's what I was afraid of. I vaguely remember reading something along those lines, now. Crap. I wanted to have a run of custom grips made and offer them here, but this complicates matters.

I guess it'll only be for the newer Phantom frame if I manage to have them made.

fullofpaint 06-27-2019 10:46 PM

I don't know how the panels fit, but CZ wrap around grips fit fine on the 86 frames.

There are two versions of the CCM frames when it comes to grips though, and the fit is slightly different. I don't have both though so not sure how they differ exactly.

ScottyBeans 06-28-2019 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isiTrue (Post 3595505)
Do it!

I just pulled the grips off both frames and the fit is exactly the same. Fully interchangeable.

For reference I have a prototype mid-block and the newest version CCM phantom frame.

Best of luck!!

sale2me 06-28-2019 10:12 AM

CCM 86 hinge frame panels will not fit CCM 86 cocker slider.


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