Umarex unveils new paintball revolver - Page 13

COB · 03-18-2019, 08:28 AM

Hey guys. Not to be a complete D, but does everyone realize that they have 2 versions of this revolver HDR50 and TR50. The HDR shoots higher FPS/joules then the TR model. I have the TR50 that has the F stamp.
The first shot on new 12 gram 327fps. The next 11in the 312 to 320 range. After that 250-275 fps for 15 rounds. The gun has great efficiency, the TR50 came with a total of 5 cylinders. I like this gun. I also own many 3357s and the Khaos conversion model. This may be a little easier to use in a game then those.
I think the HDR model would be the best starting point for a 68 cal model, but it would require new printed cylinders, and extensive reworking of the existing frame. Maybe, the best answer is to transplant the power train into a new printed frame and cylinder system.
just my thoughts

XEMON · 03-18-2019, 08:51 AM

From my understanding:
TR50 -> 7.5 Joules (for paintball)
HDR50 -> 11 Joules (for home defense)

Most paintball (and airsoft) store have the TR50.
Some stores have the HDR50 but describe 7.5 Joules.

Anoon · 03-18-2019, 03:33 PM

"I'm confused looking at the internals. Is this a true blowforward or a double action mechanism of some sort? How far does the bolt travel when it cycles?"

Fox,
It looks like a blow forward to me, but I have not looked inside a 3357. For this one, the bolt does not travel into the mag/cylinder. you can dry fire these w/o the mags in it.

Rover Lead · 03-19-2019, 12:34 PM

Has anyone made a valve flute for these yet? This thing Feels good in hand but shoots hot

bosgarage57 · 03-21-2019, 09:25 PM

So I reached out to the company that is making the air adapters and they would ship to the states but it would be $30 or so for shipping, on top of the $30 for the product. I wonder if MCS or Rockstar would stock them eventually.

I'm wondering if using that with a tank with an output of 450 to 600 would drop the velocity enough to be usable.

Below is the link in German.

https://www.ram-shop24.de/de/hdr50-r...solidcore.html

bosgarage57 · 03-22-2019, 06:37 AM

Emailed mcs and they said they were working on getting some, hopefully sometime next month

rogalxxx · 03-22-2019, 08:19 AM

What about spare parts? my bolt has significant wear after 200 shots

bosgarage57 · 03-22-2019, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rogalxxx

What about spare parts? my bolt has significant wear after 200 shots

Ouch, I would hope so, but reach out to MCS and see. They've been very responsive to my emails.

XEMON · 03-23-2019, 02:26 PM

Finally got mine.

Just for comparison (with mag, no paint and no CO2):

TIPX: 860g

TR50: 690g

Kingman Chasser: 900g

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Sorry the picture is upside down ... I cant figure out how to rotate it ...

The Inflicted · 03-25-2019, 11:52 PM

For those wondering, a Sellswords Khaos is approximately 765 grams.

Edit: had to re-weigh the gun because I originally forgot there was an empty 12gram in the grip.

03-18-2019, 08:51 AM	#122 (permalink)
XEMON MCB Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Califonia	From my understanding: TR50 -> 7.5 Joules (for paintball) HDR50 -> 11 Joules (for home defense) Most paintball (and airsoft) store have the TR50. Some stores have the HDR50 but describe 7.5 Joules. __________________ Love my SSR Love my brass ... hard choice ... Get Your Splatmaster Figure 8 Replacement For sale: Bolt action Phantom My Feedback

03-18-2019, 03:33 PM	#123 (permalink)
Anoon Pistols McKilt Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Neck deep in Reality, its lonely here	"I'm confused looking at the internals. Is this a true blowforward or a double action mechanism of some sort? How far does the bolt travel when it cycles?" Fox, It looks like a blow forward to me, but I have not looked inside a 3357. For this one, the bolt does not travel into the mag/cylinder. you can dry fire these w/o the mags in it. __________________ Sales: Feedback: https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html

03-19-2019, 12:34 PM	#124 (permalink)
Rover Lead Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: California Coast	Has anyone made a valve flute for these yet? This thing Feels good in hand but shoots hot __________________ https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/...eedback-3.html Good judgment comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.

03-21-2019, 09:25 PM	#125 (permalink)
bosgarage57 MCB Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: East TN	So I reached out to the company that is making the air adapters and they would ship to the states but it would be $30 or so for shipping, on top of the $30 for the product. I wonder if MCS or Rockstar would stock them eventually. I'm wondering if using that with a tank with an output of 450 to 600 would drop the velocity enough to be usable. Below is the link in German. https://www.ram-shop24.de/de/hdr50-r...solidcore.html __________________ My feedback thread

03-22-2019, 06:37 AM	#126 (permalink)
bosgarage57 MCB Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: East TN	Emailed mcs and they said they were working on getting some, hopefully sometime next month __________________ My feedback thread

03-18-2019, 08:28 AM	#121 (permalink)
COB MCB Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA	Hey guys. Not to be a complete D, but does everyone realize that they have 2 versions of this revolver HDR50 and TR50. The HDR shoots higher FPS/joules then the TR model. I have the TR50 that has the F stamp. The first shot on new 12 gram 327fps. The next 11in the 312 to 320 range. After that 250-275 fps for 15 rounds. The gun has great efficiency, the TR50 came with a total of 5 cylinders. I like this gun. I also own many 3357s and the Khaos conversion model. This may be a little easier to use in a game then those. I think the HDR model would be the best starting point for a 68 cal model, but it would require new printed cylinders, and extensive reworking of the existing frame. Maybe, the best answer is to transplant the power train into a new printed frame and cylinder system. just my thoughts

03-22-2019, 08:19 AM	#127 (permalink)
rogalxxx Active Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bialystok, POLAND	What about spare parts? my bolt has significant wear after 200 shots __________________ REACTOR ONLINE. SHIELDS ONLINE. FLUX CAPACITORS ONLINE. VSC PHANTOM OPERATIONAL... My feedback

03-23-2019, 02:26 PM	#129 (permalink)
XEMON MCB Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Califonia	Finally got mine. Just for comparison (with mag, no paint and no CO2): TIPX: 860g TR50: 690g Kingman Chasser: 900g Sorry the picture is upside down ... I cant figure out how to rotate it ... __________________ Love my SSR Love my brass ... hard choice ... Get Your Splatmaster Figure 8 Replacement For sale: Bolt action Phantom My Feedback

03-25-2019, 11:52 PM	#130 (permalink)
The Inflicted . Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Nashville, TN	For those wondering, a Sellswords Khaos is approximately 765 grams. Edit: had to re-weigh the gun because I originally forgot there was an empty 12gram in the grip. Last edited by The Inflicted; 03-27-2019 at 12:32 PM.

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