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tolar250 09-22-2012 12:56 PM

ram question and looking for some parts.
its been awhile since i've had a tribal and i picked up a project in a trade.

is this ram alright?

its mostly the end that looks like its been cut that bothers me.

also i'm in need of a solenoid gasket and solenoid mounting screws if anybody knows where i can get them.

DarkStar 09-27-2012 05:04 PM

That's only the shaft. Do you have the rest?

See pic on this page: Tribal-Paintball Products by Edwin H.

about half way down is a pic of a complete Tribal RAM.

I can't verify if that is bad machining or a break in your pic. Never disassembled my rams to look inside. I do have an extra RAM floating around somewhere... If i can find it i'll open it up and post a pic.

MaD 09-27-2012 05:23 PM

That does look like crap but I don't believe there was anything other than a flat surface to the back of that ram piston. I don't think it's necessarily bad. Honestly it might have some from the factory like that.

Since it's been a few days I assume you found TOG (Tribal Owners Group)? It's not really active but good info and if you can find some of those folks, they may have the parts. I actually have a spare noid somewhere but it's in bushmaster configuration so I think the screws were different. Haven't looked in that parts box in a while but there's a small chance I have a gasket and screws.

oh... HaveBlue (ASP) is a good one to ping as well. He used to be pretty deep into those guns and may have some bits laying around as well.

tolar250 09-27-2012 05:57 PM

yes i have the rest of the ram assembly, i only posted a pic of the shaft as it was the only part i was concerned about.

Ive been a member of tog since 2007, figured id try here first since tog doesn't have much activity

MaD 09-27-2012 07:24 PM

If you can't find one of those guys for a noid gasket / screws, LMK and I'll dig out the dusty Tribal parts box and take a look. :D

K_Obeastly 09-27-2012 10:25 PM

that was most likely a snap back ram that was cut to get rid of the "snap back." In the eairlier or maybe later designs of the rams there was a small o-ring in the ram cap and a nub on the back of the ram shaft. The two would lock together when the ram went back. It was kind of a anti-first shot drop mechanism. It required enough force to be applied before the ram would let the shaft go forward. I believe older bushmasters and angels also used this but ICD replaced their snap back with a spring. If you read Ravi's article on the bushy he describes it as well.
Ravi's Paintball Place - Indian Creek's Bushmaster 2000 Electropneumatic

The entire ram/hammer assembly is a single piece that can be easily unscrewed from the back of the ’gun without tools once the ’gun is degassed. Thus it’s very easy to strip and clean if you’re one of those players who tends to get a lot of dirt deep into his paintgun. A quick note; the ram was changed slightly in the middle of this review. In the early runs of Bushmaster 2000s, the ram was almost exactly the same as that found in the Angel: entirely pneumatically driven and with a snap-ring to hold it back until sufficient pressure had built to ensure that the hammer would be driven forward fast and hard. In the revised version, the ram is actually spring-loaded forward. Indian Creek told me that the ’gun was more consistent, ran smoother, and gave better efficiency this way. I played with it both ways and didn’t find any noticeable difference.

RatFink 10-18-2012 09:20 AM

Tolar, I still have the BBT you traded me, along with the whole box of spares. P.M. me if you need anything.

~kaos~ 12-16-2012 02:15 AM

Hopefully one of you guys has one.... if not I can try and contact Warped, Edwin or dig thru my parts (if I can find 'em) *l;ol

tolar250 12-16-2012 09:12 AM

i found a solution for the solenoid gasket (Solenoid gasket O-ring mod) and have found a source for the solenoid screws, i just have to order them.

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