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  • DocsMachine
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 2699
    • Alaska

    #1

    Any interest in a new Morlock Board?

    Over on the Tinker's Guild, prompted by a fellow trying to resurrect an old Sandridge E-Cocker, there's been a bit of fresh interest in putting together a new "Morlock" board.

    For those that may not recall, back in the early days of electros, more than a few backyard tinkerers would either want to convert a mechanical marker over to electro, or wanted to add anti-chop eyes to makers that didn't originally come with them, such as 'shoebox' Shockers, Bushmaster 2000's and Tribals.

    As such, the guy that basically brought the eye to our sport, Curt, of KM2, eventually brought out a "universal" project board- basically a small board that could be easily user-configured to run basically anything with either one or two solenoids, and with either break-beam or reflective eyes. That board was called the Morlock, and there was also a slightly smaller version called the MiniMorlock, and at least one specialty board called the Predator Morlock, specifically for COPS/Sensei-era Angels.

    The NEW idea here is that Curt found a very small commercially-available Arduino style board that could be easily made into a sort of "new model" Morlock, likely for about $40 out the door. After some discussion and noodling, he's considering having a from-scratch board made, which once finished and out the door, would be closer to $80, but also closer to the original Morlock form-factor. Here's an original Morlock in one of my early (actually pre-E-Blade) prototype E-cockers, probably circa early 2002:



    The Big Question here is... is anyone interested in such a thing? I know the modern trend is to convert from electro to mechanical these days, not the other way around, and that basically no one is custom converting markers these days, BUT... this could also be used to resurrect older guns with dead boards, and/or add eyes to them. Old Shockers, Tribals, early blind Angels, seartripper blowbacks, Bushmasters and Defiants, you name it.

    THIS IS NOT A PREORDER. We are not accepting any money yet. Basically we're just trying to see if there's any actual interest- we don't need hundreds, just a couple dozen would make it... well, maybe not "worthwhile", but at least not a total money-flush.

    So, just for the moment I need to know first, if any of you would be interested in such a thing, second, how many, and optionally third, what you'd have in mind to do with it.

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  • EvilCreature
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 199
    • Minnesota

    #2
    One suggestion, if I may, to "update" the Morlock series would be to have separate Molex connectors for the eye components, solenoids, etc.

    Either way, I would probably take 2 - 1 for a frankengun project and one to have in case I wanted it until the next "Morlock" board came out... that is unless I figure out a way to make my own board(s) in the future (unlikely).
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    • SETHZILLA!
      Apocalypse Dude
      • Jul 2020
      • 889
      • Atascadero,CA

      #3
      I'll take 4 right now. Possibly more depending on connections, size, features.
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      • Meleager7
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 2170
        • Ontario, Canada

        #4
        Would this new Morlock board work with dead Autococker SR frames?
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        • DocsMachine
          MCB Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 2699
          • Alaska

          #5
          Originally posted by SETHZILLA! View Post
          I'll take 4 right now. Possibly more depending on connections, size, features.
          -Keeping in mind this is very much currently in development and thus subject to change, but here's the current specs, from the thread linked above:

          This board is 2" long and .5" wide, it includes a 4-40 mounting hole, a standard morlock header (2mm 12 pin) a provision for a large cap and a 6-pin header which breaks out both the serial and I2C bus for communications/general I/O.
          -As for features, it was originally designed as a "do anything" board for paintball guns. It could run either one or two solenoids, a set of eyes (break-beam or reflective) ran off a 9V (though there's call for smaller LiOn packs, though I'd personally prefer a conventional 9V for actual game-day play) and was widely trigger-programmable. The new one will apparently have a USB, but I don't know if that's just for initial programming, for setting the parameters, or charging- or all three.

          Basically, if you have just about any electro, with a dead board- SR included- one of these can be installed (that is, including custom wiring, this is NOT a "drop in" mod) to bring it back to life. Or if you have an older electro that works, but you'd like to add eyes to it (old Shocker, Tribal, Bushmaster 2000, etc.) this can do that, too.

          We know there's Sci-Fi boards for E-Blades and Enoch boards for Angels- this is not meant to be a "we can do it all" board. It's mainly just for those that want to tinker with an older marker or maybe a custom build.

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          • SETHZILLA!
            Apocalypse Dude
            • Jul 2020
            • 889
            • Atascadero,CA

            #6
            Thanks for the info Doc.
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            • Jordan
              I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
              • Jul 2020
              • 3475
              • Southern Ontario, Canada

              #7
              As long as I don't have to solder connections on the board, I'm interested in at least a couple. If they require soldering, I'm out - I lack the ability and fine motor control to do precision soldering of small components.
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              • moving_target
                Wicked Smaht
                • Jul 2020
                • 520
                • MI

                #8
                yeah. I'd be down for at least one

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                • OdinBuilt
                  Newbie
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 18
                  • Washington State

                  #9
                  Morlock...that’s a name I haven’t heard in a while. I think it’s a really cool idea! I don’t have any markers where I’d have a use for it, but I could see it being invaluable for older markers that need a new board.

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                  • fullofpaint
                    Hoarder
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 495

                    #10
                    I'd be interested but didn't Curt already start a similar thing a while back and then bail on the project? Like around when Simon was starting Inception or something?

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                    • DocsMachine
                      MCB Member
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 2699
                      • Alaska

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jordan View Post
                      As long as I don't have to solder connections on the board, I'm interested in at least a couple.
                      -At worst, you'll have to wire the connector. In the old days, you either got the bare connector (the plastic block) and some pre-terminated wires, or I think at one point he had the connector coming with the wires already installed.

                      This is a 'budget' setup- not really to make money, just to satisfy a small need. You may get, as I did back in the day, pre-cut and unterminated wires, and have to crimp the connectors on. I'll ask Curt about that. (You gents are also welcome to post directly in that Guild thread.)

                      I'd be interested but didn't Curt already start a similar thing a while back and then bail on the project?
                      -I think so, yes. The DNA board? I don't know exactly what happened there, but I do know that Curt had to move like two or three times starting around that time, due to changes in employment, and with minimal demand for the boards, the project kind of got set aside.

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                      • Trbo323
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                        • Jul 2020
                        • 6358
                        • Vancouver WA

                        #12
                        What would be the difference between this and the universal t board?

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                        • Magmoormaster
                          Only here for the zipline
                          • Jul 2020
                          • 1294
                          • Glendale, AZ

                          #13
                          Availability. UTBs are impossible to find these days.

                          I'm sure a lot of the ebolt guys would love one, especially if it could run a Mac43 (higher voltage) noid. And assuming it was able to run dual noids, I'm sure the shoebox crowd and the AKA crowd would love them.

                          Hell, if it could run an MQ valve, I'd be down for one. I'd actually be able to build the UL midblock trilogy I shelved a while ago.

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                          • Arthur
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                            • Jul 2020
                            • 665

                            #14
                            Would be awesome for custom project, magfed, etc. I don’t think I’m the person who buys it but I see a market here.

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                            • Kit
                              MCB Member
                              • Jul 2020
                              • 452
                              • Cali

                              #15
                              I'll be in for a few if can run eblade guts and uses a regular 9v battery

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