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  • Cdn_Cuda
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    I’m still tinkering with my pre-2k and trying to get it up to speed. I swapped out the stock spring and installed a trimmed ID valve spring. After a little reg adjustment I’m shooting 260s with a high of 290. I can probably get it tuned a little better, but I’m happy for now.

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  • I-tech
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    This is an awesome thread 👏 Thank you guys for the information.

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  • batmite
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    Originally posted by Anonym View Post
    1999 had the 1998 body that had the threaded IVG. I think this is the year they "mirrored" the pump slot on the right side (no more "slab side") but that might have been 2000. Thinking a bottomline came factory this year. The bolt was "ribbed" and dropped the o-ring on the nose.Not much else changed as I can recall.
    Mine has a threaded IVG with a 'slab side'. (Serial 66473)
    So maybe mid to late 99?
    Maybe we should get a serial database going if there is not one already!

    Interesting link here:
    Because I have to go through so much effort finding these all the time Model Serial Numbers Year Made   Sniper I 1 - 500 1987 Bud was making Sniper 1 - machined bodies - in his garage Sniper I 500 - 2107 1988 - 1989 (<Summer) Paintslinger16 : "WGP made the switch from a machined to an extruded receiver. Snipers with


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  • Anonym
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    From my recollection:

    1997 was first year to come with a factory ball detent. The anodizing was more of a matte/dust where previous years were more glossy. They still had the squared, slab sided body, the 3-piece sledgehammer, brass 3-way with c-clips, and the 3-piece brass ram. The backblock was angled instead of a block. The shroud cover was the first year to have slotted "gills" and they were vertical. IVG was non-threaded. Barrel was "bull" contoured (most had bare or clear anodized threads and bore, with exterior gloss black). Actuator rod was threaded stainless, and the pump and cocking rods were also stainless. Pump rod had a "collar" for the female threads. Bolt was knurled and had 3 o-rings with small transfer port and opening. Bolt pin had an anodized black head with the blue pushpin. Frame went composite vs the previous cast. I believe this is the first year for Nelson springs as well.


    (this is a 1997 body with a 1998 shroud and older pneumatics/frame)

    1998 was a 1997 with sloped and rounded sight rail. The pneumatic shroud was slotted at an angle. IVG was still cartridge style and non-threaded. Barrel was lightened (straight contour with the shroud bump in the center (anodized inside and out). I think the pump rod dropped the collar for the female threads this year. Bolt pin was stainless steel. I think they came standard with the HP WGP regulator this year, although it didn't come with a bottomline set-up.



    1999 had the 1998 body that had the threaded IVG. I think this is the year they "mirrored" the pump slot on the right side (no more "slab side") but that might have been 2000. Thinking a bottomline came factory this year. The bolt was "ribbed" and dropped the o-ring on the nose.Not much else changed as I can recall.



    2000 went with the larger valve chamber/banjo bolt. They adopted the newer 2-piece sledgehammer, brass one-piece 3-way, and the brass 2-piece (solid nose) ram. The barrel had a "bulb" at the end and the recessed portion under the shroud was contoured/radiused. The shroud went plastic. The backblock and bolt was shortened. I think this was the year you could get gloss anodized red and green, they introduced vert feeds for non-STO models, and maybe optional 45 composite frames, but probably 2001. WGP Jewell added to the side of the body.



    I thought the 1998-1999 years were the best years, but I did like some of the benefits the 2k model brought for lower pressured set-ups.

    These are what I would consider the "transition years"...
    Last edited by Anonym; 05-02-2023, 12:14 PM.

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  • batmite
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    Originally posted by latches109 View Post
    WGP moved to threaded IVGs before the increase in banjo size. Pre-2k bodies can have threaded or non-threaded IVGs.
    I was about to say this as well, I have a pre-2k with a threaded IVG. (Serial 66473)

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  • Cdn_Cuda
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    Right now I’m sitting below 400psi on the main reg and shooting 255-260 approx. Need to get some moderately round paintballs to continue testing.

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  • Brokeass_baller
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    Do what latches109 says. That's how you properly sweet spot it.

  • Cdn_Cuda
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    I'll monkey around and see where I get. I just got my scuba tank filled so have lots of air to mess with.

  • latches109
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    Start your HPR pressure low and increase the HPR pressure until the FPS drops, then add spring tension via the IVG to increase the FPS.

  • Cdn_Cuda
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    Thanks, I'll bump the Stabilizer up to 450 and go from there.

  • latches109
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    That’s not exactly true. Depends on your springs, valve, hammer and regulator.

  • Magmoormaster
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    300 PSI on a sotck pre-2k body is borderline impossible to get to velocity. Remember the valve chamber is much smaller, even with a volumizer. Stock 97-99 cockers, which are the first years WGP included an HPR with their guns, ran at 450 PSI. Since your bodies are older and haven't been bored out, they'll probably run even higher.

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  • Cdn_Cuda
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    I do have the orignal short valve spring in it. I’ll start with the firm ID spring and see how it goes.

  • latches109
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    300 should be enough. You’ll need a short valve spring like the one AKA sells. Do a hammer drop only shot for your FPS readings - get to desired fps. Then start timing. When you time too tight your fps will drop.

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  • Cdn_Cuda
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    Reg is at 300 and I’ll have to double check the valve spring.
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