Armed Forces Trainer

[boomersruckus]

About to get this thing up and running. Pretty neat concept that allows for CO2 canisters in the front of the gun or an ASA style for the rear.

[Rusty Brass]

Sporting a custom anno even!?! That'll be a sweet little gat once you get it running.

[Nish]

If you have questions reach out to Chaos. He's had several

[Levi]

Oh that's cool! Subing to watch the progress on this one.

[DocsMachine]

It's interesting how those, and the Sydarm (the two first holsterable semiauto pistols in the sport) were originally either not available to 'civilians', or were simply not marketed to us, under the assumption nobody wanted one.

I don't know how strict the 'restricted sales' were, but I recall in both cases wanting one, but both couldn't afford one, and we were told they were 'only available to police officers', etc.

Doc.

[un2xs]

Wait... is this for sale or just for show? It's posted in a for sale part of the site.

[Yellow5]

I love these things...not only can you do 12g or rear ASA, but there is also a direct feed that you can swap out instead of the spring feed magazines. Put a loudener on that stubby barrel and the thing REALLY barks.

[boomersruckus]

crap. wrong thread
any chance an Admin can move this?

[Carp]

and done.

[Chaos]

That's a beauty...Never seen a flashy anno one before. The Hammer ,Valve and Bolt o-rings are the same as the F2 Illustrator as is the Cupseal (However those cupseals rarely fail) ....The only oddball orings are 12g chamber plug and the one under the 12g Chamber. The one under the chamber is the same size as an Autococker 3 way seal however in order to replace that seal you have to heat up the body to break the epoxy and remove the chamber from the marker body.......NOT A FUN TASK! The 12g Chamber o-ring is a tricky one,I never found the exact correct one,but I did find a Buna one in the plumbing section of the Hardware store that fit perfectly ,just never found the Urethane equivalent .....This is the one I found at the hardware store

[Chuck E Ducky]

That Ano is so cool!

[boomersruckus]

So it appears that they tap a hole all the way through the body forward to aft and use allen screws to seal it. Its the small plugged hole in the first pic. Pretty clever technology for back in the day seeing how hoseless markers are only about 10 years old in their current versions. Here are some close ups of the anno job. Cool fact, the orings on most of the marker appear to be the same size orings as the ones planet eclipse uses for which I have literally thousands of. The exception being the CO2 cap seal which seems to be beefy but Choas here has sorted me out with some directions to go forward with. Thanks Chaos, truly appreciate the assist.

[un2xs]

How is your figure 8 holding up?

If I recall correctly, someone on MCB has made replacements.... A stronger version has the cutout on the top so it flexes two ways instead of just one.

Does anybody remember who made those?

I contemplated putting a slider spring feed on mine as thefeed tubes are not common.

[Chaos]

Not sure about who that person was but I know on the Old MCB there was a user by the name of Ricoten that made black ones that were reenforced with metal pins that were durable as hell

[Yellow5]

The figure 8 is interesting...it needs to be:
- Snug enough to squeeze & hold the magazine, but loose enough to allow it to pop out for changes.
- Stiff enough to not break during casual use, but flexible enough to allow the magazine to pop in & out
-- If you make it out of metal for strength, you have a very narrow tolerance to get the flex right
-- If you make it out of thicker plastic, same deal, but it tends to snap rather than flex

Changing the geometry also has its own challenges: If you try to do it with 2 fingers in a U shape, because each finger is shorter, the distance they can spread apart is smaller. If you do the hook shape like the original design, the tip of the single arm can flex farther, making it a little more forgiving.

When I got mine, I immediately traced the shape onto a piece of acrylic so I'd be able to recreate it if necessary...definitely glad I did. Still mostly used it with a hopper, but one of those computer cable-management velcro strips can save your magazine from being lost if the clip breaks in the middle of a game.

[boomersruckus]

The figure 8 is good but I have a buddy who will 3d print me a dozen or so replacements that I can actually use on field without fear of their destruction. This will also be making an appearance at ION this year.

[boomersruckus]

Got her back together and made a temp seal on the CO2 cap to test it out. Hooked up compressed air to the asa and it leaked like a SOB from the temp oring for the CO2 but it cycled. Several times. So it seems to be in working order. Got a few of the Orings on order that Chaos recommended. Once they get here then Ill try again with some video.

[Chaos]

Got her back together and made a temp seal on the CO2 cap to test it out. Hooked up compressed air to the asa and it leaked like a SOB from the temp oring for the CO2 but it cycled. Several times. So it seems to be in working order. Got a few of the Orings on order that Chaos recommended. Once they get here then Ill try again with some video.

That looks amazing! If you want to lighten up the trigger pull ,polish up the trigger and put in a lighter trigger spring......My last one was buttery smooth