.690 nelson paint - we want it, we can get it we just have to work together ...

[Headshotted]

Laaaammmmeee. I work on fridays and that's a hell of a drive from south springs to blitz on a Friday. Would have to crash on a couch for that weekend.

[spikeball]

Blitz is the only place that does BYOP but on Fridays. Dynamic, ColorSplash and APC are field paint only...

[Grendel]

I always like the Cherry Red with green fill from R.P. Scherer. IIRC the were called Black Cherry? They were relatively easy for the shooter to follow in flight and broke florescent green but were much harder to see by others

[Chuck E Ducky]

Fields are having a hard time getting quality paint and I’m sure with the container ships sitting off the coast it’s not going to get better anytime soon. I would love to see good paint hit the market especially Paint made in the US. Even if it was more expensive in the end. Maybe people will start shooting less of it if it’s more expensive and better quality.

[iamthelazerviking]

I'm impressed with this salesperson's responsiveness and the details they are sharing. Maybe Nelson alone will save paintball by actually focusing on making quality paint. It would certainly convert hoards of players. There's only a couple places near me that are BYOP, and they're outlaw so not sure if it's worth it at the moment. But hopefully Nelson becomes popular enough for fields to start stocking.

[Drcemento]

That's verbal interest in 43 cases!

that case of anarchy cant get here fast enough. I have 0 patience.

I don't want to start breaking any rules here.

going to PM the Mods and talk about best way to move forward when it comes to posting about an official pre-order thread to get this off the ground. anybody have experience with this? was thinking a Squarespace commerce page might be the best but will have to look into their rules relating to pre-orders. kickstarter?

[Chuck E Ducky]

I would take two cases.

[fullofpaint]

I don't know why anyone would want Gator Black again.

Same haha. Gimme All-star or Marbs with that crazy flourescent bright shell for tracking my balls.

I'd be down for two cases to at least check it out.

[BigBalla23]

Got a group here up for 3-5 cases.

[DocsMachine]

I don't know why anyone would want Gator Black again. Especially for a pumper or stock class. On anything but the brightest of sunny days and the most open of fields, it's nearly impossible to see fly.

We had a case of the original stuff, years ago, back when a case lasted a small group for a whole weekend. Everyone hated it. You had no idea where your shot went.

There's a reason paint has a bright shell these days.

Doc.

[RedLeaderSB]

Black shell?

[scottieb]

I'd be in for a couple of cases. Fill and shell color do not matter to me. It would be nice to use some older barrels again.

[SETHZILLA!]

Put me down for 2 cases by myself, if more guys are interested from my team I'll respond here and PM as well.

Looking forward to your report on the case you have coming!

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[Drcemento]

Thanks everyone for your input so far - all super helpful.

• summing it up, I see solid verbal interest in 17 cases.
• outside MCB I've got 10 more
• I've reached out to a couple fields here in North bay and there is enough interest that it could lead to a longer term solution to our paint woes

I was able to talk with Nelson Paints sales rep for awhile today and get a the backstory on whats happened the last 10 or so years, because I think many people will agree, Nelson took a turn for the worse at some point, and kinda fell off the map. according to him:

• they did shoot themselves in the foot this was due to bad management with a huge emphasis on overseas sales and custom orders and none on quality or servicing the US market - if I heard right even to the point of no longer producing anarchy - turning allot of customers off. this eventually caught up to them (ie: losing money ) and led to allot of internal changes about 3 years ago
• apparently allot of the changes came about because of allot of anger over discontinuing anarchy.
• the new sales rep has been brought on to pick up the pieces for 2 years now and re-establish the domestic market and Nelsons reputation
• they have reduced their line to 2 types of paint from 6 - anarchy and precision
• They have really put the emphasis back on quality to get back to where they were

its all well and good coming from a salesman, but I figure if he took the kind of time he did to walk me through it for a measly 2 pallets they really are trying to get things back on line, and it made me feel allot better about making the order from them, along with some great feedback here on MCB from fields that sell Nelson paint

To that end they are saying they stand behind their product 100%. he is crediting me for the case that I purchased last week before I got this hair up my ass, and that anarchy is the best paint they can make, and if thats what we spec in a .690, then that's what we'll get, and if we don't for some reason they will fix it.

he walked me through their QC process once the paint comes off the dryer which includes 4 steps:

#1 Shell hardness
#2 Ball diameter, measured at 3 points
#3 drop test
#4 shoot test, which I though was interesting they actually run them through a fixed gun and measure how many hit a target at X feet (what diameter bore was that barrel 😁)

he was driving but said he'd follow up monday with the specifics for each test for each grade of paint and put me in touch with the production manager If I wanted - we can also review the the QC sheets for our specific batch prior to shipping.

he said they have records of every batch of everything they have ever made going back to forever, and hes going to do some digging to see what a production spec for 1995 was - the size thing was news to him and he was pretty curious about it

Guess allots riding on that case they sent me!

very exciting, keep the comments coming and tell your buddies!
very pumped to make this happen.

[Mechstar]

I appreciate you taking this on. I hope it works out.
I would be in for 4 cases, to get a stockpile in case this becomes a one and done type of thing….
Going forward, about 4 cases a year if this becomes sustainable and the quality is good. .688-.692 would be the range to go for probably, although I personally would like at the upper end of that range.

Some of my enthusiasm hinges on the size and condition of the Nelson Anarchy I am ordering.

As others have said, ROUND consistently sized paint is more important to me than bore size, so large bore egg shaped paint will lose my interest fast, but If there is a CHANCE of getting ROUND and LARGE….then YES! I am willing to put my money on the line to find out. I would be open to some kind of deposit to get my dibs in, preferably AFTER I see a valid purchase order in with Nelson, but to cover your ass on such a large purchase, I agree you should get some money up front from the interested. It shows commitment. A $50 pre-order deposit on an $80 case of paint is probably a bit steep. If a Kickstarter or third party can act as escrow and hold the funds until the balls have been run and the final invoice is due, it might convince the more “pre-order” skittish to jump on board.
You will have to clear it with the Mods before starting any kind of a pre-order thread. Even the most well intended pre-orders (often) go awry.