REG-LESS Autococker Pump - School Me

[__Z__]

What should I expect, higher spring pressure requirements? Lower efficiency (obviously, but anything considerable)?

I might honestly buy a 420psi output tank just for this marker. Just curious on everyone's takes.

[Chuck E Ducky]

Expect a lot of spring tuning, and when you get it right keep that tank setup dedicated to that specific marker.

It can be done just get yourself a good spring kit. With 420 psi tank output you’re probably going to need a stiffer spring. But it won’t necessarily be inefficient if you can get it all balanced with a good paint to bore match and timed nicely.

[__Z__]

Expect a lot of spring tuning, and when you get it right keep that tank setup dedicated to that specific marker.

It can be done just get yourself a good spring kit. With 450 input you’re going to need a stiffer spring. But it won’t necessarily be inefficient if you can get it all balanced.

If I went to slp around 300 psi, think ide be able to keep a relatively light spring?

[Chuck E Ducky]

Might even be able to drop a CCM lower kit in it.

[__Z__]

Maybe that's the ticket then, snag a alpha reg and a small CI bottle to run with it.

[Chuck E Ducky]

You may still have to play around with springs but that should get you close. Modern tank regs are surprisingly consistent. Especially on HPA with a Pump ware you don’t need super fast recharge rates. It can totally be done. Post up your progress I’m curious what you plan is. I had a Hard time getting my KCPS Scout right but that was due to getting it to run on unregulated 12g. HPA is so much easier.

[Painthappy]

You'll be fine. I shot regless on a sniper and then an Autococker - on CO2, for the longest time. It really doesn't effect too much. I personally think people get far more worked up over it than it deserves. While it helps for fine tuning velocity, it's not that hard to dial it in without.

[latches109]

This is the way it all started. Reg-less on CO2. It’s amazing what your can do with some springs.

[zinger565]

Expect a lot of spring tuning, and when you get it right keep that tank setup dedicated to that specific marker.

It can be done just get yourself a good spring kit. With 420 psi tank output you’re probably going to need a stiffer spring. But it won’t necessarily be inefficient if you can get it all balanced with a good paint to bore match and timed nicely.

Dumb question as someone who's gone through a few 'cockers and snipers. Where can you even get a "good" spring kit these days outside of buying an entire lowers set? I remember the maddmann (spelling?) spring kits being solid and relatively inexpensive, but don't really see anything like that anymore.

[Chuck E Ducky]

It’s been a while since I purchased some but inception sells spring kits. I use to use the mad man springs myself a lot. I have built up a collection of various springs over the years so I kind of have a BagOsprings I grab from. I wish I still had a a full Mad Man kit because those worked in a wide range of markers. There are places you can send springs to and they will replicate them and make new kits. Autococker parts seems like it’s got a good selection as well. I have not tried them tho but they are cheap I would probably start there.

https://autocockerparts.com/autococker-springs-10-mics-springs/

[ChuckLove]

DocFire just released his own spring kits as well. See the second photo for his comparisons to other spring kits.

https://docfirepaintball.com/collections/autococker-parts/products/fire-springs

[latches109]

Online spring vendors and McMaster carr