Xvalves on a slow boat

[Price]

Been months out. Lack of innovation have reached final destination for most already is there still interest for agd? Rip pneumag the one that never lived.

[RAZRBAKK]

If only there was a thriving used market for these items with passionate, and knowledgeable sellers.

[Axel]

If only there was a thriving used market for these items with passionate, and knowledgeable sellers.

Smartass 😋

[BigRed]

If only there was a thriving used market for these items with passionate, and knowledgeable sellers.

Oh man, are we going to see huge Price increases on AGD products as well now?

[Ecapnation]

If you ask me AGD has long missed their mark on making a comeback during the mech revolution.

They really needed to ditch the x valve long ago and simply remake the classic valve as an aluminum piece.

[Hellion360]

Yeah, I would have bought that for sure.

[PlawB]

Nah, complete redesign of it. Make the thing half the size and operate at 300 psi instead of 800. The bolt itself could be seriously lightened by having a small "sombrero" of metal that the sear holds onto and the spring rests on, with a delrin piece resting on top of the sombrero filling out the rest of the bolt.

And I'm hoping to get a new x valve myself since I want a minty fresh one. But I do wonder if the newer x valves are made to the same standards as the old ones.

[Ecapnation]

They tried that with the delrin super bolt... Didn't go well

[k_obeastly]

They do operate in the 300s, they just require the high pressure input to prevent starvation and shootdown. They also tried the half delrin or carbon fiber bolt before the lvl10 bolt. They called it super bolt and it didn’t hold up too well and never made it past the testing phase.

[dano_____]

[Price]

[Ecapnation]

Psst... He doesn't run and isn't involved with agd anymore

[Grendel]

Easy fix for this go to profile -> Edit Settings -> Accounts -> (scroll to the bottom)


-> Select "Save Changes"

[maggot]

is there still interest for agd?

You must be joking, right?

What even is the point of your post, can you explain it?

[Price]

I would like to see agd push forward, theres still lots of potential in the X undcovered and they would benefit to take risk and offer development that lean toward innovation to gain spikes of interest again. Theres still many things that can be improved just like when icd removed the hose and renewed everyones interest. The alt we are experiencing with the X engine indicate that priority are not set to keep momentum and that is an indicator of loss in altitude and if in the future not corrected...crash

[maggot]

Crash? I think you might not understand what AGD is at this point. It's basically a hobby business run from a 500sqft shop.
The automag has always been, and will always be, the perfect paintball gun. It will have loyal followers until paintball is no longer relevant. We're lucky to have sandman still supporting us with replacement parts. At the MOST he should have done what Ecap suggested, make a run of aluminum classic valves.

[Price]

Im just an observer, what I see is a dot that flyes low on autopilot with no engine, even with an engine you still have to pull on the flaps once a while and have gas in the tank because love dont fly planes

[RAZRBAKK]

Price your standards are honestly ridiculous. Sandman responds fast and keeps enough new parts on the market to keep us all happy.

Like I said before, there is a ton of used parts out there if you need it now, but otherwise you just have to wait.

[Axel]

Yeah I don't know what your point is, either. This isn't 2002 and we are incredibly lucky to have Sandman keeping us going with parts. New product development is way beyond the company's capability at this point. If I were Lord High Emperor, then AGD and WGP would still be making the hottest guns in paintball, but the market is what it is, and there are just not enough people lining up for new Automags to justify any significant R&D expenditure.

[Trbo323]

You must be joking, right?

What even is the point of your post, can you explain it?

It's price man, he is either on drugs or so out of touch with the actual paintball industry and pretends that he is that it seems like he is on drugs. Either way, as usually he doesn't know what he is talking about and will most likely reply to this with a word salad motivational poster guy so he doesn't have to actually try to defend anything he said and can remain (quite literally) blissfully ignorant

Tom was way ahead of his time, to the point that I feel the industry and players never really understood the concepts he was using in his markers. It wasn't until the 2010s that companies started producing stuff that was even close to what Tom did in the 90s.

Hell how many companies can claim that a product of theirs was so good and successful that it forced a rule change in professional paintball halfway through a tournament season (1988 the introduction of the 6pak)

To this day I don't think there's a mechanical anti-chop system that is as good as a properly tuned lvl10.




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[Grendel]

Love the reference to the 6Pak, I bought one in '89 and loved it but shortly after I bought it CA went main stream. Don't forget Micro CA and Micro CA II they all were game changers in their own rights causing copy cats galore. Tom is an amazing innovator and our hobby is sadder for him going on to other things (thanks, Gardner brothers)

[mueller]

Tom Kaye feels way ahead of his time in general. I look at his website sometimes to remind myself of how much cool stuff one person can do

https://www.tomkaye.com/

[MrKittyCatMeowFace]

It's price man, he is either on drugs or so out of touch

If I was a betting man, I'd say he is on the spectrum. And not on the fun to be around side. .

[Trbo323]

If I was a betting man, I'd say he is on the spectrum. And not on the fun to be around side. .

You know I hadn't considered that but you might be right

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